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Old 02-26-2003, 12:09 PM   #16
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are you not arguing against democracy?

american's should be able to criticize their president...right?

Man, if there was a law against criticizing the president my whole family would be doing life. It's all we do these days. It's the democratic thing to do if you think the president is screwing up. It doesn't necessarily mean that you "hate the guy's guts" or want to screw him or whatever. If you think he's making mistakes I would go so far as to say you have a *duty* to criticize as long as you keep it constructive and don't resort to name calling and such.
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I have no problem with people voicing their opposition to policy et al, and as much as it is American to b#tch, I have the right to call out many of the complainers as being Anti-American (if they are) or Anti-Bush (Which most of them are). For example, the girl basketball player who is turning her back on the flag during the national anthem. The irony is that these people opposing the Iraq situation, are opposing a situation, that when solved by the imminent military force, will allow them to continue their rants.

Megadrum... You referenced Sheryl Crow.. Did you see Fox and Friends yesterday with Brian Kilmeade interviewing Jeneane Garofolo?.. After watching that liberal disaster and her inability to produce a legit answer to a tough question, I guarantee you that you will care not one bit what Sheryl Crow or Martin Sheen or George Clooney thinks, as more often than not, they are less informed than you.

Let's talk about the Democrats policies, Much time is spent discussing the conservative policies.. I'd be interested in how the Democrats would like to go about things... The only policy suggestion i've seen out there is one for economic stimulus, and frankly, that was more of a joke than many think of Bush's Tax Cut plan.

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If you think he's making mistakes I would go so far as to say you have a *duty* to criticize as long as you keep it constructive and don't resort to name calling and such.

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If you think he's making mistakes I would go so far as to say you have a *duty* to criticize as long as you keep it constructive and don't resort to name calling and such.
Here Here!!! Constructive criticism is something we all could use and practice.
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LOL... well if you aren't mocked... you sure the hell are typo'd

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Old 02-27-2003, 12:41 AM   #25
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are you not arguing against democracy?

american's should be able to criticize their president...right?
lol .. i argue against democracy all the time. there are serious problems with a democracy, and it is mindblowing to me why there is such a push to call the U.S. a democracy. It is not. It is a republic. Our founding fathers had a huge distaste for democracy, and made sure to create a republic. Why do we do this *all the time*. I think it's just a misnomer that's been passed down generation after generation. Who knows, maybe there is a more nefarious reason to it, but regardless, I think the *real* political spectrum is often misunderstood.

<-- individualism -- collectivism -->

A good government is somewhere in the middle (a republic). On one end you have 0% government: anarchy (the ultimate expression of individualism) where those with the biggest fists and weapons rule absolutely. On the other you have 100% government, the ultimate expression of collectivism being a totalitarian socialist system. But the spectrum is more of a closed circle than a line because when you reach an anarchy you can see that you're right back to being ruled by those with the most power.

And, yes, it is imperatively our duty to criticise our leaders. I hate the notion that is being pushed so heavily that you are not patriotic or are unamerican if you don't blindly accept everything the government does. That's insanity. But it's also the Bush administration's way...
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verte76: i agree with you - criticism should be constructive - no matter which style of government is used to run a coutnry.

It's just sad to see that the US government dosn't think this way when they comment countries/governments which dissagree to their opinion how to solve the Iraq problem.


elfyx: i agree with you - it's not easy to find a good compromise. But when i see todays republics and democracies i'm affraid they became verry corrupted - maybe a base democracy could be the better choice.


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verte76: i agree with you - criticism should be constructive - no matter which style of government is used to run a coutnry.

It's just sad to see that the US government dosn't think this way when they comment countries/governments which dissagree to their opinion how to solve the Iraq problem.


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I agree. This stinks.
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