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Old 04-07-2006, 09:25 PM   #16
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Are the Democrats going to actually stand up for change or parade around as Republicans Lite?
If enough people go out and vote for them and show that we have their backs yes they would stand up for change...if it's a narrow margin they would probably continue to be cowards...which is why I want to see a giant transition with fresh blood.
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Old 04-08-2006, 01:41 PM   #17
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What are the odds of the U.S. being at war with Iran before November?
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What are the odds of the U.S. being at war with Iran before November?
My worst nightmare. Perish the thought.
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Nothing will happen with this leak because Bush is President Teflon - nothing sticks to him. Nothing.
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Old 04-08-2006, 07:21 PM   #20
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If this year's hurricane season is as bad as last year's, Anitram, nothing should be ruled out. Even if the Diebold Inc. Voting Machines "perform" with their usual flair and respect for the democratic process, and do what they were designed to do...*cough*
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from an outsiders view, i am so confused with all of this and how every week i hear or read something else that boils my blood within the bush administration but nothing happens....i dont understand why?

I mean this isn't about a blow job or even lying under oath, he has done so much damage, SO MUCH damage, not only to other countries by starting uneccsary wars, but also to the USA. I mean you were always joked about being the fat arrogant pushy tourists, but like all sterotypes it was tongue in cheek, but now you are HAAAAATED DESPISED! There are counties you couldnt step a foot in without getting a bullet to the head, and to be fair, that would be the case in some before the bush admin, but certainly a lot worse now.

Is it because your "middle america" or the so called "bushies" are slow witted, have no sense of adventure or wonder of the world and are quite happy to sit at home in america being force fed american lies and crap and don't care?

And why doesn't someone stand up to the administration? So many people bemoan it, go on about it and shocked and abbhor what is going on, yet it seems like nothing will ever stop this administration. Its like, GWB could walk up to a 5 yr old child shoot them in the face laugh and walk off and nothing would happen to him....

am i seeing this wrong? I'd be happy just to get some feedback from americans living under this absolute joke of a president.

I mean we are all pretty screwed here too, but we've had the same PM for 10 years and he hasn't done a millionth of the shit GWB has...
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from an outsiders view, i am so confused with all of this and how every week i hear or read something else that boils my blood within the bush administration but nothing happens....i dont understand why?

I mean this isn't about a blow job or even lying under oath, he has done so much damage, SO MUCH damage, not only to other countries by starting uneccsary wars, but also to the USA. I mean you were always joked about being the fat arrogant pushy tourists, but like all sterotypes it was tongue in cheek, but now you are HAAAAATED DESPISED! There are counties you couldnt step a foot in without getting a bullet to the head, and to be fair, that would be the case in some before the bush admin, but certainly a lot worse now.

Is it because your "middle america" or the so called "bushies" are slow witted, have no sense of adventure or wonder of the world and are quite happy to sit at home in america being force fed american lies and crap and don't care?

And why doesn't someone stand up to the administration? So many people bemoan it, go on about it and shocked and abbhor what is going on, yet it seems like nothing will ever stop this administration. Its like, GWB could walk up to a 5 yr old child shoot them in the face laugh and walk off and nothing would happen to him....

am i seeing this wrong? I'd be happy just to get some feedback from americans living under this absolute joke of a president.

I mean we are all pretty screwed here too, but we've had the same PM for 10 years and he hasn't done a millionth of the shit GWB has...




you'll find few people who despise Bush more than i do, but your post demonstrates an amazing ignorance of how domestic and international politics work.

paint 300 million people living in the most diverse society in history with enormous, self-serving, ignorant brush strokes at your own risk.
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... he has done so much damage, SO MUCH damage, not only to other countries by starting unneccsary wars ...
I noticed you referred to "wars" in the plural... are you seriously referring to the US-led invasion of Afghanistan immediately after 9/11 as not warranted?

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And why doesn't someone stand up to the administration? So many people bemoan it, go on about it and shocked and abbhor what is going on, yet it seems like nothing will ever stop this administration
Because the Democratic party has not put forward any viable alternatives. I recall after the 2004 elections that the European press bemoaned that 54 million Americans could not possibly be that stupid to vote for Bush. What they failed to understand is that his challenger at the time, John Kerry, was a complete boob.
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Because the Democratic party has not put forward any viable alternatives. I recall after the 2004 elections that the European press bemoaned that 54 million Americans could not possibly be that stupid to vote for Bush. What they failed to understand is that his challenger at the time, John Kerry, was a complete boob.

this is absolutely true.

much of Bush's "success" comes not from any sort of love for him by the american people, or any sort of measurable accomplishments (there really aren't any), but by his ability to present himself as simply a better alternative to the Democratic challenger.

the Democrats have a knack for stealing defeat from the jaws of victory.
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much of Bush's "success" comes not from any sort of love for him by the american people, or any sort of measurable accomplishments (there really aren't any)
The Taliban/Al Quada Regime has been removed in Aghanistan. Saddam's regime has been removed Iraq. Both are huge accomplishments with massive benefits for both US and Global security. Both are vastly more significant in terms of security than Clintons accomplishments in Bosnia and Kosovo in the 1990s.

On the economic front, the Bush administration has brought the United States out of economic recession and will soon match the best economic performance of the previous administration, which is the best the country ever had.
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the Democrats have a knack for stealing defeat from the jaws of victory.
Considering how the marketplace of ideas is nothing more than a marketplace sold to the highest bidder, perhaps you can see why the Democrats have fallen flat. They only listen to people who have six-figure bank accounts or higher these days.

Of course, the GOP is no different, but they also campaign on the lowest-common denominator: fear.

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As absurd as it sounds, no one can deny that one or two damaged voting machines may be enough to turn presidential elections.
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you'll find few people who despise Bush more than i do, but your post demonstrates an amazing ignorance of how domestic and international politics work.

paint 300 million people living in the most diverse society in history with enormous, self-serving, ignorant brush strokes at your own risk.
Well, instead of making smart ass comments, maybe explain WHY you think im ignorant? I'm not expecting bush to be escorted from the white house in cuffs, hat im saying is that for all your simpering, all your bitching, you do NOTHING. for everyone going on and on and ooooooon over Iraq and WMD and NOW fecking Iran and North Korea and how he seems like a simpleton making the most important desicions of YOUR lives you just sit back have a bitch to people around you and do nothing. Is that how a wonderful "democracy" is suppose to work?

Actually what i really tihnk, is your political system sucks, you give ONE person immese power and yet you go on about being a democracy when really, its a step or two away from saddam reign.

And yes i said WARS. Because i believe Afganistan was uneccesary they then went gung ho into it, captured a few taliban and some "terrorists" killed a lot of innocent people and then didnt even get the person they went in looking for!! Plus the war in Iraq and now the CIVIL war in Iraq which the US can take the blame for as well. Add in the impending war in Iran that im sure will go down and thats four and counting..


and the most diverse society? LMAO. Whatever...hahahahah
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dazzinglyamy, dont really care for any of your comments, execpt the last one.

Why do Americans think they are the most diverse country in the world? I couldnt disagree more, especially when you see attitudes towards say, Mexicans and Muslims. Diverse maybe, but diversity must include acceptance, which I think other countries do a better job of.
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Nothing will happen with this leak because Bush is President Teflon - nothing sticks to him. Nothing.

This is so true. It's senseless but it seems the Bush family has the young Shrub planted firmly in the White House. Somehow we need to dig him out of there!
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