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Old 10-19-2006, 09:37 AM   #46
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Banning paper because of paper cuts
Well would you believe that some schools over here have banned kids throwing paper aeroplanes on the grounds that they might just hit someone in the eye!
One of my sons was actually hurt playing tag at school a few weeks ago and broke his glasses. I was a bit annoyed that I had to fork out for a new frame but I would never dream of suing the school or call for a ban on tag. You can't wrap children in cotton wool and I'd much prefer they get the chance to play such games, have fun and learn about risks even if they get a few bumps and bruises along the way. I'm sure that the vast majority of parents would agree with this but you only need one or two to make a fuss and with the current climate where schools are worried about litigation, the views of a minority sadly often affect the majority.
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I have no idea what long recess is in an elementary school. The schools I am familiar with get on 15 minute block of recess.
We had morning recess and long recess. I can't remember exactly, since it was so long ago, but I think morning recess was 10-15 minutes. K-5th had it together, then 6-8th had theirs right after. Long recess was I think before lunch for K-5. They go out to play for like 30 mins then come in and eat in the cafeteria. While they are out, the 6-8th eat in the cafeteria and when they come in, 6-8th go out. So, no one was ever in class during either period of long recess and the gym could be used for organized activities. Keyword being organized. You had to sign up, otherwise, out you went. There were always two parents and on teacher forced to be on recess duty, so one would monitor the intramural instead, being that now half the kids are indoors, and the school wouldn't have to get an extra person. It works as long as the gym is free during recess, which from your posts sound like it's not the case at your school.
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recess makes you think this?
I know children need protection, discipline, and love, but this bubble-wrapping and foam padding the world for the children has gone too far. As a parent, I would never be able to keep up with what is acceptable in child-rearing and what is acceptable at the schools.
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I know children need protection, discipline, and love, but this bubble-wrapping and foam padding the world for the children has gone too far. As a parent, I would never be able to keep up with what is acceptable in child-rearing and what is acceptable at the schools.
As evident with this thread, I think those types of parents are in the minority. But, like Greenlight said, they have a habit of ruining things for the rest of us.
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As evident with this thread, I think those types of parents are in the minority. But, like Greenlight said, they have a habit of ruining things for the rest of us.
Yes, I agree. Like a mom who doesn't want her kids to read the Harry Potter books so she's working to get them banned from the library. What kills me is that schools, libraries, etc., cave in to these demands.
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As evident with this thread, I think those types of parents are in the minority. But, like Greenlight said, they have a habit of ruining things for the rest of us.

yup. it's the 80%/20% rule.

80% of the people are great, 20% of the people are terrible; but that 20% takes up 80% of your time and effort.
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Yes, I agree. Like a mom who doesn't want her kids to read the Harry Potter books so she's working to get them banned from the library. What kills me is that schools, libraries, etc., cave in to these demands.
I strongly get upset when I see it characterized as caving in. The 80% who should be vocal aren't.
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Only in namby-pamby pussyass lawyerville liberal MA. Reasonable folks in red-meat heartland states would laugh that bullshit right out of town...
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Erm, well, I live in a red heartland state, and I can assure you that "pussyass" playground safety litigation is alive and well here, although I haven't heard of tag being banned yet.
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I strongly get upset when I see it characterized as caving in. The 80% who should be vocal aren't.
Do the 80% usually know about it when those kinds of things happen? We would certainly be vocal about it if we knew someone was trying to ban Harry Potter from our school library, but I'm not sure we'd necessarily hear about it if they were.

But, I don't think this situation is really analogous to playground safety politics--campaigning parents is one thing, litigating parents something else. I shake my head when I hear about parents suing over minor injuries, but to be honest I'm not sure I'd be willing to go knock on their door (again, assuming I even knew about it) and say, "You know, I don't think you should be suing the school over this--so your kid needed a few stitches, big whoop, c'est la vie."
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One of my sons was actually hurt playing tag at school a few weeks ago and broke his glasses. I was a bit annoyed that I had to fork out for a new frame but I would never dream of suing the school or call for a ban on tag. You can't wrap children in cotton wool and I'd much prefer they get the chance to play such games, have fun and learn about risks even if they get a few bumps and bruises along the way. I'm sure that the vast majority of parents would agree with this but you only need one or two to make a fuss and with the current climate where schools are worried about litigation, the views of a minority sadly often affect the majority.
Our oldest son actually severed a major artery (from a compound elbow fracture) falling off the monkey bars onto the hard dirt below when he was in preschool. He almost bled to death and there was some minor permanent nerve damage, although overall he healed up fine. And we didn't sue either, although we would've lobbied hard to get them to install loose-fill under all the climbing equipment after that--which as it turned out wasn't necessary, because the directors were frightened enough themselves by the incident that they went ahead and did it anyway. We certainly wouldn't have wanted to them to ban all climbing equipment, running on the dirt etc. or anything because of it though; basically our feeling was, This happens--kids fall, they break bones, it's a reasonable precaution to provide a softer surface beneath anything where they might fall from a height, but even then they'll still fall and bang themselves up, and that's OK, even with the everpresent risk of some freak complication; we don't attempt to make our kids live in some cocoon at home, and we wouldn't ask the school to do that either. In general, I wish more parents would take this route--think about how likely what happened to their child is to happen to another's, weigh the likely preventive benefits (and how serious the risk of injury is) against any crimp it might put in enjoyment of play, then lobby to get the school to enact whatever reasonable precautions against further such incidents...rather than suing. Like I said, though, I don't know that I'd feel comfortable attacking fellow parents who chose to sue after their child was injured--and if anyone had come to us shortly after our son was injured and urged us not to sue, I think I'd likely have blown up and told them to go fuck themselves, even though we weren't in fact considering suing.

I understand that schools aren't the bad guy here, but it's not that easy to challenge parents' attitudes either, and the consequences of litigation can add up fast.
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I got crotched playing football after school when I was 13 and could barely walk for a week. I had to limp to class after everyone else had already went because I didn't want to get bumped around.

I broke my wrist and a day later I was back playing baseball using one arm.

We made our own treehouse about 20 feet above the ground using rickety old plywood and a rope for climbing up and down.

I have wiped out about 3-4 times on my bike without a helmet as a kid.

I got skulled by a softball while sitting on the outfield fence as a kid. I went flying but only had a slight headache.

I got a soccer ball in the face at school while sitting on a stage watching an intermural game and fell to the gym floor after. I survived that too.

My sister pushed me and my head went through a huge fish tank at our house when I was eight. I ,in turn, ran her over with my bike and she went flying into a ditch and needed stiches.

I was dragged about 100ft by a snowmobile after my gloves got stuck in the back while pushing it out of a snowbank, I was about 9 at the time.

And spitballs, blech, empty out your bic pen, make a tiny paper ball and putoohy, right in the eye!!


Post your "scary" experiences.
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I got smacked by someone swinging on the swings. I was running behind the swingset, and passed by at just the right moment to be smacked.

I believe I actually flew through the air. I had the wind knocked out of me, and I remember the teacher's aide running over to me, but I don't think I was hurt.

Then, of course, I stuck my tongue to a metal twirling bar in the middle of winter, and you all know what happened next.

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Post your "scary" experiences.
Since I was a tomboy and did gymnastics, I've been in some risky pickles, but the one time I remember being scared was in gymnastics, I was doing some sole circles. Basically, you're on the bar on your hips w/ your hands on the bar (called front support), you push (cast) up and set your feet on the bar, lean back, and go all the way around on your feet so you end up standing on the bar. Not too difficult at the time, done it hundreds of times, but this one time I missed a foot and peeled off underneath. I landed on the back of my head and neck. The next thing I remember was my friend standing over me. She came running over b/c she said she saw me land on my head out of the corner of her eye, but I didn't move or react. I was quite shaken up and very sore for a long time, but it never crossed my mind to sue the school. I fell, it was a mistake.

I was only hurt bad once during elementary school. We were playing some kind of tag game in the choir room during music class (our music teacher was a fruitcake). I slipped and fell and sprained my wrist. It swelled up quite purple. My mom said it wasn't broken, we wrapped it for a few days, and that was that.

During my time in elementary school things happened such as a kid sliced off part of his finger in a paper cutter, a kid in my class fell and broke his wrist so bad bones were sticking out, a kid was standing on a chair and said he could do a backflip off but when he tried the chair slipped and he landed on his head, one of my best friends slipped while running on the cement near the sandbox and had bloody scabs on her hands, face, arms, and legs. You know, just the usual!

I actually gave a girl a bad concussion once. I was going through a beam routine and she came up and sat on the end of the beam without me knowing (why?!?!). I went into my tumbling pass, still not aware she was there, and felt my foot hit something. I had kicked her right in the head and she started babbling about a homework assignment.
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This chick named Bridget slipped a worm down my back so I tied her to a pole with her poncho.
Now, that's funny. I'd pay to see that!
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Now, that's funny. I'd pay to see that!
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