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Old 02-08-2006, 08:10 PM   #346
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Who's doing the co-ordination though?
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:16 PM   #347
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Iran - Syria - Lebanon

A common thread there and a motive.

But that is moot speculation in the absence of evidence, the fact remains that they were published months ago, they were toured by a Danish Islamic group with additional cartoons one of which has been shown to be a French pig squealing champion with the intent of stirring up opinions.
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Iran - Syria - Lebanon

A common thread there and a motive.
What motive?
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Distraction and coercion as as Iran is brought towards the security council. Syria and Iran have become very close recently, one should also remember the strong ties of Islamic extremists within Lebanon.
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Can you think of anyone else that might have a motive?
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How about every other authoritarian government running an Islamic majority country who are scarred shitless that anger could start getting directed their way but found this issue to be a handy way to allow people to let off steam without threatening their own power.
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:42 PM   #352
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Any evidence for that theory, A_W?
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:46 PM   #353
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Which part, we can say with certainty that the Cartoons were published in the Arab press last year and it did not ilicit this type of response. We can also say that the Danish Islamic group toured the Middle East with additional and more offensive cartoons (of which one has been shown to be a picture of a Frenchman who squeals).

As for permitted protest there is a long history of directing all anger outwards to prevent internal dissent.
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It is the second contention that I am interested in.

What evidence do you have that we are witnessing an outward redirection of anger, specifically in this case?
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How about every other authoritarian government running an Islamic majority country who are scarred shitless that anger could start getting directed their way but found this issue to be a handy way to allow people to let off steam without threatening their own power.
I agree, it's all about a scapegoat, this is probably the same reason Iran's having a Holocaust conference...hey, blaming the Jews has worked before.
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Syria is a police state, with a large gathering of people in protest it is very difficult to imagine the government not being able to control them (for instance look up the reception that David Duke was given in Damascus). The attacks on the embassies in Syria and Iran was permitted through the minimum possible action by the respective governments, The boycotts being employed by these governments also shows off their Islamic credentials and can help keep popular opinion at bay (remeber that in the Egyptian elections the Muslim Brotherhood came out quite strongly).
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I agree, it's all about a scapegoat, this is probably the same reason Iran's having a Holocaust conference...hey, blaming the Jews has worked before.
While many extremists are indeed quite happy to keep blaming the Jews for everything, the Holocaust conferences and cartoon contests, as A_W has pointed out, are directed more at Europe than anyone else. This has become one of Ahmadinajad's favorite whipping posts: You hypocrites, you would not have had the Jews living amongst yourselves either and your post-Holocaust immigration caps proved it, yet you have no hesitation about standing up for their right to live here.

Although an Iran-Syria "axis" is inadequate to explain the net global result, I agree completely with A_W that that is a factor which needs to be looked into. MANY of the extremists involved in the Damascus protest (which involved thousands, most of whom took no part in the violence) were bussed in from Syria. And there is a loooonnngg history of Syrian meddling in the sectarian conflict in Lebanon, just as there is a long history of Iranian meddling in Sunni-Sh'ia conflict in Iraq. Similarly, it was Fatah militants, not random outraged Palestinians, who spearheaded the Gaza protests (and kidnapped that German); and specific radical British and Danish clerics, as already mentioned in this thread, were respectively behind much of the shit-stirring in the London protests and the initial misrepresentation of the cartoons abroad. While Taliban and al- Qaeda members have been actively involved in fanning the flames in Afghanistan and Pakistan...really, the list could go on and on. It doesn't explain the anger itself, no, but it certainly raises some questions about why and how it's led to some of the incidents it has. There is indeed a high degree of coordination and networking among the radicals globally, and much of it has to do with would-be despots jockeying for the authority to be found (or maintained) by strategically directing the will (anger) of the people.
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I heard on ninemsn that the Taliban is offering a award of 100kg of Gold for the capture and death of the cartoonist of "the-cartoon-that-must-not-be-named"
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Which part, we can say with certainty that the Cartoons were published in the Arab press last year and it did not ilicit this type of response. We can also say that the Danish Islamic group toured the Middle East with additional and more offensive cartoons (of which one has been shown to be a picture of a Frenchman who squeals).

As for permitted protest there is a long history of directing all anger outwards to prevent internal dissent.
How pissed off are these people at their own government, and how much of the anger is directed at the cartoon? Combine the two and you've got a ton of anger, which blew up all over the Middle East this week. It was anger directed at several governments, Denmark, and the EU.
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The World Union of Jewish Students in conjunction with editorial cartoonists, Edward Margolis and Noah Crissey, has announced an International Editorial Cartoon Competition for students called “Fight Hate with Humor.” Inspired by an Iranian contest where students around the world have been invited to join in a global competition to create hate cartoons depicting “A World without Zionism”, “A World without the United States”, and glorifying the “Intifada”, they plan with humor “to stand the Iranians on their heads.”
http://www.wujs.org.il/home/cartoon.php

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