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Old 11-19-2006, 12:13 PM   #1
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Kissinger: Iraq military win impossible

Kissinger is a scary character but he has also joined the now quite large group of people who are stating the obvious. Of course, this apparently hasn't been so obvious to many in the US adm. and its supporters. He is right about the fact that US can't just withdraw, because of several reasons, and he also implicitly affirms what a ridiculously comical idea it was to start this war in the first place. I think what is going to happen is when Bush is gone and replaced by a Democrat, the US will reconcile with the world and start working within multilateral frameworks again. US will have to make amends to the international community for its stupifyingly reckless behaviour, and work with it to solve this mess. That'd better happen because my country is waay too close to the black hole that is Iraq.

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LONDON - Military victory is no longer possible in Iraq, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said in a television interview broadcast Sunday.

Kissinger presented a bleak vision of Iraq, saying the U.S. government must enter into dialogue with Iraq's regional neighbors — including Iran — if progress is to be made in the region.

"If you mean by 'military victory' an Iraqi government that can be established and whose writ runs across the whole country, that gets the civil war under control and sectarian violence under control in a time period that the political processes of the democracies will support, I don't believe that is possible," he told the British Broadcasting Corp.

But Kissinger, an architect of the Vietnam war who has advised President Bush about Iraq, warned against a rapid withdrawal of coalition troops, saying it could destabilize Iraq's neighbors and cause a long-lasting conflict.

"A dramatic collapse of Iraq — whatever we think about how the situation was created — would have disastrous consequences for which we would pay for many years and which would bring us back, one way or another, into the region," he said.

Kissinger, whose views have been sought by the Iraqi Study Group, led by former Secretary of State James Baker III, called for an international conference bringing together the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council, Iraq's neighbors — including Iran — and regional powers like India and Pakistan to work out a way forward for the region.

"I think we have to redefine the course, but I don't think that the alternative is between military victory, as defined previously, or total withdrawal," he said.

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cut. and. run.


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He's right. A victory in Iraq now would have to be a joke. It's just not possible.
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:03 PM   #4
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where exactly is sting2 these days?

iraq is so 2003 already, but i'm sure he's somewhere around here...

aren't there any inane un resolutions he could recite that somehow state that america technically won their "war on terror" and that anyone who says otherwise is wrong?
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:04 PM   #5
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Kissinger just doesn't know what to do when he can't indiscriminately carpet bomb the whole f*cking place.
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Well we could still win, but it would be a Nuclear Holocaust.
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Old 11-20-2006, 05:25 PM   #7
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Well when a war criminal thinks a war is unwinnable, that's pretty bad.

In all seriousness, while I agree with him in principle, hasn't he "secretly" been advising W this entire time? So how much of the responsibility is he willing to shoulder for this? Or for that matter, any of the other neocons who are busy singing like canaries to Vanity Fair?
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:48 PM   #8
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How is Kissinger a neocon?
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Poorly worded on my part, I was referring to Perle et al.

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