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Old 06-07-2005, 12:41 AM   #46
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I see it as a giant river flowing out of and back into God constantly. And it's rather like peeling back layers because it's not that God is something outside of us, but it is something that already exists within us.
That's really beautiful.
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If reincarnation is true, then how come the general world population is growing and growing?
Because the cycle is infinite. Souls are constantly devoluting from God (like in the image of the river that karmic_postmark just quoted above) to begin their sojourn in the physical world. As crazy as it might sound to the Western mind, according to the law of karma every rock, every tree, every plant, every flower, every species in the animal kingdom, is ensouled, evolving, and eventually must take on a human body.
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It has to do with reincarnation. If reincarnation is true, then how come the general world population is growing and growing?
A slightly different take, but only slightly:

Because all the souls that were once minerals, etc, are now progressing enough to become human.
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That's what I was trying to say but now I realize I didn't quite say it.
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It was early.

(I think you said it very well.)
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Old 06-07-2005, 07:04 PM   #51
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i love both marthas but don't know what to think..
i do believe we lived before and that this existence on earth is only a smigdeon of our entire life span.

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A lot of what you've said on your last detailed reply is what I've already believed on many things, joyful. It's helping with the overall and general understanding of some specific elements. The way you both write these out too, is beneficial. I'd call it matter of fact, but it isn't even quite that. So much of it is already making sense. I think my next stop is to start seeking out stinky bookshops with crystals and incence as I dont think the questions will ever stop really, lol.
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Huh? What's that got to do with it?

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Huh? What's that got to do with it?

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She's referring to a particular kind of bookstore that carries books on spirituality. Lots of spiritual bookstores have a new agey aspect that includes things like crystals, incense, and books on psychics, channelers, etc. Why books on teachings as ancient as karma, reincarnation, Eastern philosophies and religions are typically lumped in with new agey stuff is beyond me but they are quite common in these parts and apparently Australia as well. In fact, I'm having an olfactory hallucination right now and can smell the stinky incense emanating from this one store I used to frequent in NYC.
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^ I didn't mean to offend, fors. Sorry if I did.
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She's referring to a particular kind of bookstore that carries books on spirituality. Lots of spiritual bookstores have a new agey aspect that includes things like crystals, incense, and books on psychics, channelers, etc. Why books on teachings as ancient as karma, reincarnation, Eastern philosophies and religions are typically lumped in with new agey stuff is beyond me but they are quite common in these parts and apparently Australia as well. In fact, I'm having an olfactory hallucination right now and can smell the stinky incense emanating from this one store I used to frequent in NYC.
I we went to the MetaPhysical bookstore on Scottsdale Rd.
I bought a book.
They wanted to put me on their mailing list.
I wasnt prepared to move so quickly.

martha and martha..how do you girls feel about James Van Praagh and his views on reincarnation?

http://www.shareguide.com/VanPraagh.html

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No, no, I wasn't offended. Just curious as to the connection.

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joyfulgirl, honest question: why do you even have to believe in a God, when it seems like karma can exist without a God? Well, I guess I just don't understand what God is in your mind. You described it as an ocean from which we are drops. How did you even start believing in 'God'?

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Could God be the creator of it all, as religions also believe? I'm not getting the feeling that karma denies God exists and was the force behind our world even existing. Karma as/is the journey/process of soul through it's life, and God as the creator of soul, life, and everything in it.
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