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Old 08-25-2007, 02:31 PM   #151
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People who attend a Church, calling themselves Christian and harm children are Christians in name only.

You can fool people, but not God.



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Old 08-25-2007, 02:31 PM   #152
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So, in other words, who "is" and "isn't" a "Christian" is defined strictly by the Religious Right?
Obviously.

It's very interesting. If it doesn't fit, he is not a Christian. Who cares that the same person is praying every evening, reading the bible, going to church on Sunday...
He doesn't fit the description, so he can't be a Christian.
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People who attend a Church, calling themselves Christian and harm children are Christians in name only.
Or, apparently, people who don't agree with every view of Christianity too.

Or at least you.
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So, in other words, who "is" and "isn't" a "Christian" is defined strictly by the Religious Right?
This is their favourite pasttime.

But hey when evangelicals start calling Mormons kooky nutbags, then that's a BAD and INTOLERANT thing.
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:33 PM   #155
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Which is why priests have been arrested for it.

Stupid, stupid post.
They were arrested for it because they broke the law, regardless of their Church affliation or attendence.

I feel like I'm dialoguing with a 12 year old.

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Something the Christain Right doesan't like to think about: http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/8695/

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Journalists might also ask Gingrich about Smith's stepfather, Beverly Russell.

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But Susan Smith attempted suicide at age 13, and at age 15 told authorities that her stepdad had been sexually molesting her for at least a year. Her mother helped talk her out of pursuing charges against Russell. (At age 18, she attempted suicide again.)
The child-abuse case against the well-connected businessman smells of a cover-up. It's not known exactly how long the molestation went on, because the case file mysteriously vanished. And Susan Smith was not even represented in court by a lawyer or guardian, as required for minors.
The social-service worker who investigated the molestation testified at the murder trial that although Russell admitted the abuse and agreed to seek counseling, she was "concerned" that law enforcement closed the case so quickly.
Whatever counseling Russell underwent had little impact. The murder trial revealed that he was still having sex with his stepdaughter as recently as two months before she killed her kids.
I remember this part of the case vividly. No one liked to talk about it, but it was mentioned in more than one source at the time.
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They were arrested for it because they broke the law, regardless of their Church affliation or attendence.

I feel like I'm dialoguing with a 12 year old.

You're back on Ignore.

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Well, your debating skills aren't that much more mature.
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They were arrested for it because they broke the law, regardless of their Church affliation or attendence.

I feel like I'm dialoguing with a 12 year old.

You're back on Ignore.

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You're the one who brought Church affiliation into the argument in the first place!

No. You are dialoguing with a 16 year old who's got his head on a lot straighter than yours.
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Obviously.

It's very interesting. If it doesn't fit, he is not a Christian. Who cares that the same person is praying every evening, reading the bible, going to church on Sunday...
He doesn't fit the description, so he can't be a Christian.
The only description of a christian I know is one that believes in Christ. If the man that murdered Jessica repents his sins and believes in Christ in his last days, he'll be seeing you heaven.

No one says you have to be blue, yellow or orange to be a christian.
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If the man that murdered Jessica repents his sins and believes in Christ in his last days, he'll be seeing you heaven.

No one says you have to be blue, yellow or orange to be a christian.
But if you're a repentant child-killer, you're good to go.
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But if you're a repentant child-killer, you're good to go.
Yes, something I will never understand and have a hard time believing it.
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And Christians in other countries disagree with you.



How have you not been banned yet?
Well in this country we have the 1st Amendment and I will speak my mind.

No, I haven't been banned, and if you want to be sympathetic to child molesters that's your preogative, but I will call you on it.



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No one is being sympathetic to child molestors here.
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Yes, something I will never understand and have a hard time believing it.
You're on the right path, but that doesn't absolved you from earthly and legal penalties, only eternal ones.

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The only description of a christian I know is one that believes in Christ. If the man that murdered Jessica repents his sins and believes in Christ in his last days, he'll be seeing you heaven.

No one says you have to be blue, yellow or orange to be a christian.

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They may think they are christians. But they're not. Only a sick and evil twisted person can commit the crime that was done to Jessica.
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