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Old 03-06-2002, 11:58 AM   #16
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Lemonite -

About nine years ago, Mr. Jackson graced your beloved campus with a speaking engagement - with Mohammed Ali at his side. It was an awesome speech, and roused the Domers into a frenzy. It was a great day for your campus.

Mind you, he has fallen on some tough times - and has made some horrible decisions - but that day will always stick out in my mind as a great day.

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Old 03-06-2002, 04:12 PM   #17
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I'd love to see Colin Powell run... maybe with Libby Dole as his VP.
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This guy is an abomination for the Black race
So would this make Henry Kissinger (or any other white politician who has done something wrong) "an abomination for the white race"? Just wondering...
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So would this make Henry Kissinger (or any other white politician who has done something wrong) "an abomination for the white race"? Just wondering...
Like Gary Condit?

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So would this make Henry Kissinger (or any other white politician who has done something wrong) "an abomination for the white race"? Just wondering...
Hahaha.. AH yes, I had my egg timer set until you would chime in on this thread..

You seem to have missed the point by trying to drop a question to negate my statement, What I am saying is that Jesse Jackson is a Manufacturer of Negative White/Black Relations, He lives for it, His mouth salivates at any single opportunity to try and paint a picture of Black People being shit upon in this world...

For example, take the Latest Notre Dame Head Coaching Decision.. He goes and places a call to our AD saying it would be a 'good statement' for ND to hire Willingham.. Not for any reason that he may in fact be a competent head coach, or that he has experience coaching a similarly academic oriented school, But for the sole reason that It would be a boost for the Black Morale in the College Coaching Department.. He made it seem that blacks were getting 'brushed' over in coaching selections on purpose.. not because maybe they weren't the best for the job..

The last thing Jesse Jackson wants is for Black Men/women to start to try and improve themselves, To Succeed.. Those are his mortal enemies, Believe it or not.. Successful Blacks.

What a heartless man.

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I'd love to see Colin Powell run... maybe with Libby Dole as his VP.
Wow, if America would have trouble accepting a black president, I would bet they would have even more problems accepting a female vice president. This would be an acceptable ticket for the Democrats, but probably not for the Republicans! I feel the Republicans sent Libby a strong message in 2000 - "Don't even think about, women!"

Oh, the days when woman had a chance - cheers to Mondale for trying - it's too bad we are such a close-minded society.
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ummm, c'mon, zone...not just a little partisan there are you?

I'm overwhelmed by the number of women running for President or VP under the Democratic ticket. *ahem* riiiight.

Powell and Libby Dole would make a great ticket. Probably won't happen, but hell, I'd vote for them.
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ummm, c'mon, zone...not just a little partisan there are you?

I'm overwhelmed by the number of women running for President or VP under the Democratic ticket. *ahem* riiiight.

Powell and Libby Dole would make a great ticket. Probably won't happen, but hell, I'd vote for them.
Sula buddy, name all the female VP candidates ever....hmmmm, Geraldine Ferraro (Mondale's running mate back in, oh never mind, you weren't here, sorry ). No GOPs there though. How about racially diverse candidates in the last 40 years? Has there been more than one from the Republican party? I'm just saying...

I think Libby Dole is GREAT, and I have a lot of respect for Powell - but I feel Dole has been pushed away by the party - shoo shooed in 2002. And for what, a less-inteligent puppet of the party, dubya.
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His mouth salivates at any single opportunity to try and paint a picture of Black People being shit upon in this world...

Not wishing to start an argument here, but I don't think anyone needs to paint a picture of Black people being discriminated against. The evidence of that happening is all around us, nobody needs to exaggerate the situation because it's serious enough as it is.
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I feel Dole has been pushed away by the party - shoo shooed in 2002. And for what, a less-inteligent puppet of the party, dubya.
Hey zonelistener, I'm really interested in this - who would you say is behind pushing for Bush to be the Republican candidate in 2000? His father or people who supported him in office? Or other people within the Republican party? Or outside? I'm curious - tell me more! :-)
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Ah.. This will be the hallmark of all liberals in the year 2008 when They unleash Hillary Rodham Clinton to try and jump in on the presidency... I can't imagine of an even greater disaster to strike... Keep an Eye out.

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Not wishing to start an argument here, but I don't think anyone needs to paint a picture of Black people being discriminated against. The evidence of that happening is all around us, nobody needs to exaggerate the situation because it's serious enough as it is.

I'm not a Jesse Jackson fan myself, aside from the aforementioned inspirational speech which I remember vividly and the occasional moment where I think he is telling it like it is, but he has always stood up for all people who have been shat upon, including women, children, gays & lesbians of all races.

I also respect the way he handled the much-publicized affair and baby. You can criticize him for being in that position in the first place, but I'm not going to judge him or anybody for it because I've got my own mistakes to contend with and am in no position to judge anyone. All I know is if you're a politician who has an affair and a baby from that affair, and it comes to light, that's the way to handle it. I doubt many politicians would have the courage to be so honest and direct about it.
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Hey zonelistener, I'm really interested in this - who would you say is behind pushing for Bush to be the Republican candidate in 2000? His father or people who supported him in office? Or other people within the Republican party? Or outside? I'm curious - tell me more! :-)
Be honest with you - I couldn't put a name to it, but, if you look at Bush, he would fit the part for what the GOP needed: Popular in his position (gov. of Texas), name recognition (daddy), money, a good puppet (not knowing much about Int'l policy),attractive to the eye (for the most part - ain't no Ronny Reagan though ), popular within the party (old boys network, as with BOTH parties). It just seems perfect. They got what they needed - they beat Gore. Make sense?
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I also respect the way he handled the much-publicized affair and baby. You can criticize him for being in that position in the first place, but I'm not going to judge him or anybody for it because I've got my own mistakes to contend with and am in no position to judge anyone. All I know is if you're a politician who has an affair and a baby from that affair, and it comes to light, that's the way to handle it. I doubt many politicians would have the courage to be so honest and direct about it.
Except that unwanted pregnancies are a *huge* problem in the black community (as well as adultery being a pretty serious sin according to any reasonable strain of Christianity). Charles Barkley lambasted the Reverend for this transgression in this week's issue of Sports Illustrated.
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Except that unwanted pregnancies are a *huge* problem in the black community (as well as adultery being a pretty serious sin according to any reasonable strain of Christianity). Charles Barkley lambasted the Reverend for this transgression in this week's issue of Sports Illustrated.
As I said, you can criticize him if you want, but he handled the situation admirably in my opinion. He is a man, not a God. He fucked up badly, he owned it and did the right thing. And Charles Barkley better make sure his own slate is clean before he goes lambasting anybody.

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