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Old 10-22-2001, 03:13 AM   #16
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Uh, yeah, so this is where Noam Chomsky comes in and says that drug companies lobbied the US to start bombing Afghanistan in order to provoke bioterrorist attacks and thus provide a market for all those antibiotics and vaccines.
WOW, i did not know that.

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How dear anyone insults another person cuz they are anti- war. I'm sorry, but i don't live in a dream world, but I have watched and seen these terrible acts of war..... Very sinful.... These sins of war can be avoided.... I don't have the answers cuz i don't have total knowledge of all the crap that is going on... But i can say this, killig any innocent person is a crime, whether it is in a war or whatever, its a crime...... So, 80's guy, whatever ur name is, try not to get burned up at people who are against killing innocent lives....
HAVE U EVER SEEN AN INNOCENT CHILd, KILLED BY A BUNCH OF SOLDIERS......? It made me cry to see a scene of that, and to think their are 1000s of others....... When a war begins, it never ends.
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How dear anyone insults another person cuz they are anti- war. I'm sorry, but i don't live in a dream world, but I have watched and seen these terrible acts of war..... Very sinful.... These sins of war can be avoided.... I don't have the answers cuz i don't have total knowledge of all the crap that is going on... But i can say this, killig any innocent person is a crime, whether it is in a war or whatever, its a crime...... So, 80's guy, whatever ur name is, try not to get burned up at people who are against killing innocent lives....
HAVE U EVER SEEN AN INNOCENT CHILd, KILLED BY A BUNCH OF SOLDIERS......? It made me cry to see a scene of that, and to think their are 1000s of others....... When a war begins, it never ends.
I can't speak for 80'sU2isBest, but I think he's not entirely burned by antiwar sentiment - but I think he sees this thread may evolve (like other threads) into a US bashing session. It all starts when the US' motives are scrutinized (not a bad thing, it brings some sort of balance as well as a global viewpoint) and when someone speaks up for or against it, it turns into another US bashing thread and eventually, things come to personal blows. I've seen it all too much in recent weeks...

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Thank you very much. That's exactly what I'm thinking. I appreciate your defense of me. For people to think I am a war-monger is wrong wrong wrong. Unjustified war is wrong. But this war is right. And also, I am sick of people bashing America. I'm not talking about people who just disagree with America policy, but people like Holy John, Patti Jones, and BLOCK, who bad mouth America every chance they get.[/B][/QUOTE]

Hear Hear! Well spoken and completely precise.

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HAVE U EVER SEEN AN INNOCENT CHILd, KILLED BY A BUNCH OF SOLDIERS......? It made me cry to see a scene of that, and to think their are 1000s of others....... When a war begins, it never ends.
I didn't insult anyone. I said that Patti lives in a dream world. And that was being kind. Ever since Patti started posting, it's been one anti-Ameerican post after another. And I find it funny that you jumped on me for saying someone lives in a dream world, when you replied to the post in which BLOCK said to us all F*** YOU EVERYONE that he had some good points and never mentioned that! You wanna talk about innocent lives? How about 6000 of them at one time??!! And these 6000 weren't killed accidentally. They were the targets. So you can talk to me all you want about how war is never justified, but it's not true. War in this case, as it was in World War 2, is COMPLETELY justified, In fact, it's the only viable solution. These radicals (the terrorists) cannot be reasoned with. They show that by their willingness to kill themselves in order to kill thousands more. But we tried to reason with the Taliban, but they wouldn't accept it. Now we are doing the only thing left to do. Do you expect us to be held captive by killer radicals (the terrorists)? Do you think that arresting and killing bin Laden alone will stop anything?
No, it will not. It will just make them madder. It is therefore incumbent upon us to annihilate every terrorist group.


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I'm sorry if i jumped on u... But, let me verify something... I do realize that 6000 were killed that day. I am famliar with some community people who were on those flights, and my uncle and aunt were supposed to be working in the WTC that day... It angers me that a bunch of pissers could actually do this..... The anger i have issss soooooooo overwhelming. But, i don't think war can ever be totally justified. I just think that if the US is responsible for the death of any innocent person(in Afghan), it is crime. Fine, lets restate this whole war thing and say it is a war towards terrorism.... But if so, no innocent lives should be taken.
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HAVE U EVER SEEN AN INNOCENT CHILd, KILLED BY A BUNCH OF SOLDIERS......? It made me cry to see a scene of that, and to think their are 1000s of others....... When a war begins, it never ends.
I didn't insult anyone. I said that Patti lives in a dream world. And that was being kind. Ever since Patti started posting, it's been one anti-Ameerican post after another. And I find it funny that you jumped on me for saying someone lives in a dream world, when you replied to the post in which BLOCK said to us all F*** YOU EVERYONE that he had some good points and never mentioned that! You wanna talk about innocent lives? How about 6000 of them at one time??!! And these 6000 weren't killed accidentally. They were the targets. So you can talk to me all you want about how war is never justified, but it's not true. War in this case, as it was in World War 2, is COMPLETELY justified, In fact, it's the only viable solution. These radicals (the terrorists) cannot be reasoned with. They show that by their willingness to kill themselves in order to kill thousands more. But we tried to reason with the Taliban, but they wouldn't accept it. Now we are doing the only thing left to do. Do you expect us to be held captive by killer radicals (the terrorists)? Do you think that arresting and killing bin Laden alone will stop anything?
No, it will not. It will just make them madder. It is therefore incumbent upon us to annihilate every terrorist group.


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I can't speak for 80'sU2isBest, but I think he's not entirely burned by antiwar sentiment - but I think he sees this thread may evolve (like other threads) into a US bashing session. It all starts when the US' motives are scrutinized (not a bad thing, it brings some sort of balance as well as a global viewpoint) and when someone speaks up for or against it, it turns into another US bashing thread and eventually, things come to personal blows. I've seen it all too much in recent weeks...
Thank you very much. That's exactly what I'm thinking. I appreciate your defense of me. For people to think I am a war-monger is wrong wrong wrong. Unjustified war is wrong. But this war is right. And also, I am sick of people bashing America. I'm not talking about people who just disagree with America policy, but people like Holy John, Patti Jones, and BLOCK, who bad mouth America every chance they get.
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Fine, lets restate this whole war thing and say it is a war towards terrorism.... But if so, no innocent lives should be taken.
I wish that no civilians would be killed, but I'm afraid it's going to happen. Not a war has gone by in which there were no civilians killed. It's horrible, but it's true. And there's really nothing that can be done about it. We try to hit only military installations and airports, but accidents do happen and bombs go off course. But like I said, that's how it is in every war. The Taliban are the ones who cmmitted any crime. They are the ones who refused to hand over an intternational crime suspect, even though they were warned of what would happen. They are the ones who treat their women as "objects", not even second class citizens. They are the ones who will shoot a man if his beard is not long enough. They are the ones who have been starving their own people for years. And they are the ones who opened fire on Afghan refugees trying to go into Pakistan on Friday or Saturday. The Taliban are the criminals.
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Spread the word... Taliban is not a Islamic group.... they are a cult of their own.... Soon, they will realize how wrong they were once they see themselves burning next to Hitler....
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Spread the word... Taliban is not a Islamic group.... they are a cult of their own.... Soon, they will realize how wrong they were once they see themselves burning next to Hitler....
*Im not supposed to post...Im not supposed to post...but i cant hold it!!!***

First of all, I think this quote sums up every though about this war being a Holy war, doesnt it? In Coran something as "harb" (arabic word for "war" as we know it) does not exist...but that was another post...As Salamu Alai Kum Amna!

Then, I live in a dream world, and Im SO happy I have the guts to keep dreaming day after day while my brothers ('cos every human being is my brother, no matter color or religion) are being killed.

Then, I only tried to show some bad parts, I posted things that other ppl (smarter than me) wrote, im triying to get some point of view out of this and all I got is "You are anti US". It is like when you are 4 and you show a draw to your mum and she says "mmmm, you could have done it better" and you start to cry and shout "you dont love me! buaaaa!" I said Im with you in many topics, yet Im anti US...you are turning me against US...It is SO SAD...

I have to leave...I didnt have anything smart to say in fact (as you saw)...

It is SO sad that everyone can admit being, maybe, mistaken, but you...and then, you wonder why does the world dislikes you and why shit keeps happening...

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And I forgot to say that a hospital has been bombed...since the mosque could have been strategically attacked...i need some new ideas for this attac...

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