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Old 06-26-2002, 05:16 PM   #61
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Bushie likes to keep us preoccupied with his "war" on Afghanistan, er Iraq, er...terrorism because by doing so it keeps the focus off his god-awful train wreck of an domestic agenda and his approval numbers intact. As long as Bushie keeps the blinders on the American public it only stands to reason his popularity will remain high. But trust me...eventually this facade of a "war" will expose itself to the American electorate and the focus will return to the core issues facing our country in the future. Bush and his honchos clearly fear this...they can't win on the issues 2 years from now...so it wouldn't come as a complete shock to me that sometime in the fall/winter of 2003 or early spring of 2004 Bushie launches an attack on Iraq, promoting it as a "preemptive strike" against "the evil doers".

The bottom line is that the Bush family seems to latch on to "war" whenever they can in order to take the focus off their pathetic crippling of the American economy, environment, and first amendment rights. They would have us believe that this "war" is so important that nothing else really matters-not the economy, not the enviroment, etc. Just ridiculous. Yes, feeling safe on the streets of America is important-but not at the cost of crippling our economy with the failed economic policies of the Reagan and Bush Sr administrations.

So...Bush will learn that ultimately the American electorate is smarter than he thinks. It IS about the economy at the end of the day...and the trickle down economics of this administration will guarantee a Bush defeat in November of '04.
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Old 06-26-2002, 05:17 PM   #62
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So Joel-

You'll be ok w/re-registering as a sexy-republican than afterall?

In a few yrs?

thank u-

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z edge...

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU BABBLING ABOUT?


Seriously, you are in the dark if you think environmental policies surround jets and a motorcade.

As for the rest of what you said... It makes no sense, and is pointless to comment on. Please pull up a chair and read the morning paper sometime.. and I dont mean the 'funnies' or the sports section. Oh.. better yet, read the news paper online, it'll save paper. lol.
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So Joel-

You'll be ok w/re-registering as a sexy-republican than afterall?

In a few yrs?

thank u-

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Good bye Dave, I'm done with this thread. You started it and you apparently have NOTHING of any intellectual value (left) to contribute to it.

You and z edge are birds of the same feather, aren't you?
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ummm, I don't think I described reckless cowboys etc etc
I think Clinton would have bombed just about anything just as Bush Jr did
and a very important reason to do this is not because they have any idea what exactly they are bombing but because (the majority of) the US citizens expects their president to react this way
TO me this hints at what i accused you of before, not only do you manage to mess up his name but your stating that most of the US citizens expect..... may as well be a slam. But you are absolutely right. Thank GOD.

The cowboy thing was a compilation of reading this forum for 9 months since 911 and being fed up. Many, not necessarily yourself have used these terms.

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not only the US citizens feel this way, people all over the world feel this way
personally I don't see that much wrong with the US doing that
we can talk about it all day and night but you are the only world power left
if the US doesn't react to these kinds of things nobody will
Salome you are contradictory here. Unless there has been some "magical" editing here or I have read you completely wrong for the last year and 1/2, we could pull up damn near every thread that involved Bush or war or American troops and it would contradict your statement here.

As you see, I am not alone in my feelings.

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ood to see my post being judged as typical blind hatred towards the US
it helps me to understand how elaborate my posts should be over here to prevent people to jumping to conclusions already formed in their mind before I even post anything
If I am wrong, then perhaps the difference in cultures creates confusion in how we precieve each other.

I dunno here, what you have written in this post is pretty well read, why wouldn't any of the others be?

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r also adding a little abuse towards my country
a country you clearly know near to nothing about
I knew you'd understand)
I have no personal intent to slam your country, even though I feel you have done so to me repeatedly.

My apologies for that anyway.
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W has the character to snort coke and have his brother shaft a democratic election process.

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Before you accuse someone publicly of US bashing, or anything else, please be prepared to have facts to back up your claims.

Facts, please.....
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You and z edge are birds of the same feather, aren't you?
Actually no, I am a much smaller and more agile bird while Dave here is the keeper of the nest
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Facts, please.....

a) I'm done with this thread.

b) I stated he has the charachter for those things. I did not state that those things were facts.

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2 a : one of the attributes or features that make up and distinguish an individual b (1) : a feature used to separate distinguishable things into categories; also : a group or kind so separated <advertising of a very primitive character>
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Salome you are contradictory here. Unless there has been some "magical" editing here or I have read you completely wrong for the last year and 1/2, we could pull up damn near every thread that involved Bush or war or American troops and it would contradict your statement here.
well, good luck looking for those threads
because I don't think I've stated very much on that issue except that after a week + I questioned what strategic objects were left to bomb

I really don't care what most of you think of me, but I will not stand having people call me a hater of everything American, because:
1. it's not true
2. I am a mod here and the percentage of Americans in this forum is very high - I already have seen enough crap without being accused of insane accusations
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Actually no, I am a much smaller and more agile bird while Dave here is the keeper of the nest

Doesn't say much for the other birds in the nest. lol.
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BUT I like to BABBLE sometimes

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z edge...

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU BABBLING ABOUT?
If we are destroying this beautiful land, then we are all to blame not just Bush. In that case then it has been going on for longer than he has been alive, IF it is true.


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Seriously, you are in the dark if you think environmental policies surround jets and a motorcade.
Two examples I posed since you blamed Bush specifically. But if you want more then look at your computer, your house, your car, your clothes, concerts, movies. Everything we do has waste attached to it. And destroying the enviornment too. The scientific research used to study this and "prove" these theories is also responsible.

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As for the rest of what you said... It makes no sense, and is pointless to comment on. Please pull up a chair and read the morning paper sometime.. and I dont mean the 'funnies' or the sports section. Oh.. better yet, read the news paper online, it'll save paper. lol.
Save paper, but not electricity!

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End-BABBLE

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I really don't care what most of you think of me, but I will not stand having people call me a hater of everything American, because:
1. it's not true
2. I am a mod here and the percentage of Americans in this forum is very high - I already have seen enough crap without being accused of insane accusations
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but I will not stand having people call me a hater of everything American, because:
I never said that Salome

Perhaps we should continue this in private

Either way,

I can't stand for some individuals bashing and trashing what I risk my life for, what others died for

I'm not accusing anyone
but it happens a lot around here

Some call it misconception
Some call it bashing
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Well, in the recent past when another US President w/high approval ratings got involved in a war..ie- Bosnia his approval numbers went down slightly..every miltary involvment practically either his numbers would dip or remain the same at best..

Therefore Ergoheads..this character issue may be more important than we realize after all, wouldnt cha think?

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Don't be so selective in your history, Diamond.

Another recent president had an astronomical 91% approval rating - during the Gulf War. The very next year, he lost his re-election bid.

Polls aren't always accurate and people's opinions change with the tides. If this "war on terrorism" in the MidEast ends before 2004 and the economy is still poor, Bush #2 may suffer the same fate as Bush #1.
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