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Old 06-26-2002, 01:08 PM   #46
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Oh, and BUSH supports ISRAEL! How NAZI is that! 'Cause, y'know, when I think of the Fuhrer, I think "Zionist."

Unbe-fucking-lievable.

Looks like someone hasn't read my previous post about the use of the word 'NAZI'.

http://forum2.interference.com/showt...highlight=nazi


Let me give you some advice Bubba:

Two words not to use SO liberally: 'fucking' and 'nazi'



I'm not a Bush supporter by any means, but you really need to get your head outta the cave.
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Old 06-26-2002, 01:17 PM   #47
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Churchill had to clean up the mess made by his predecessor, a predecessor who did very little to effectively counter the ever-growing threats of a madman, and Churchill did so not by doing the easiest thing, but by doing the RIGHT thing.

"We shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields, and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender!"

"Great harm has been done to us. We have suffered great loss. And in our grief and anger we have found our mission and our moment. Freedom and fear are at war. The advance of human freedom -- the great achievement of our time, and the great hope of every time -- now depends on us. Our nation -- this generation -- will lift a dark threat of violence from our people and our future. We will rally the world to this cause by our efforts, by our courage. We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail."

Parallels between Bush and Churchill? I must be INSANE.
So you really think that GW Bush wrote those words himself? People get paid the big bucks to write for presidents.

Churchill, on the other hand, was a brilliant published historian who most likely did use his own material.

The politial "machine" has changed quite a bit since Churchill's time. US presidents now take all the blames as well as all the glory when in reality there is a cast of people to blame/praise. If GW Bush is achieveing some success he has a lot of people to thank for it. He is smart enough to allow others to assist him in important decision making. ie "war on terror" Trust me, he's not running that show.
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Old 06-26-2002, 02:20 PM   #48
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This is by far the most idiotic thing I've ever read.

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If you looking for a reason to slam the US.....find another one salome...this one has been done before ( please paste sound of beating of dead horse). You seem to love to bash the US....but you never seem to come up with any alternatives to what the US is doing in the war on terror....why is that???

and if your going to talk big do yourself a favor...get a nick that's a little more masculine. Salome..is a girls name

Excuse me?
How is commenting on how US politicians react to US citizens a form of US bashing? It's not. I would have said the same thing. The smell in the air after 9/11 was that MOST people here DID want someone, anyone, anything bombed as a show of our power, anger, and emotions.

Before you accuse someone publicly of US bashing, or anything else, please be prepared to have facts to back up your claims.

As for the personal attack on salome's nickname.... stand down or I'll start asking what exactly qualifies you as only HALF a rock star... lol.

And for anyone ELSE making such accusations about salome, or ANY other member of this forum, without something factual to back yourself up.... consider this for you also.
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US presidents now take all the blames as well as all the glory when in reality there is a cast of people to blame/praise. If GW Bush is achieveing some success he has a lot of people to thank for it. He is smart enough to allow others to assist him in important decision making. ie "war on terror" Trust me, he's not running that show.
As well he shouldn't be 'running the show'.. He's compiled a great great cast around him.. Cheney, Powell.. C. Rice.. Rumsfeld.. I mean.. this man is surrounded by some of the most competent people in the world.. However, he is at the top of the chain.. That's teh reason he's president.. The Leader. Running the show.. He'd be an idiot to think he had some other worldly sort of wisdom that most tyrants assume they have.. But 'In Charge of The Show', he most certainly is..

I reference his speech on the MidEast Peace Process the other day.. if you have any question who is in charge.. though I would rather say 'America is In Charge' on that one.. I guess they are melding to become one..

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This just in...Bushie is a one-termer just like his da-da!

You see, at the END of the day (election day 2004) the economy really does matter and this administration has done everything in it's power to ruin it. Additionally, around election time voters tend to focus on the REAL issues facing our country, i.e. affordable and accessible healthcare for EVERYONE, shoring up Social Security/Medicare, the environment, gun control, crime, jobs, etc.

Bushie has a horrific agenda and track record on all of these issues and his inability to articulate any ideas/plans he may have will also hinder him in the general election.

Bushie "bushwhacked" the voters once...he won't get away with it again. He and his administration can only milk this "war" on terrorism for so long...

You Clinton bashers amuse me...you can't attack his record so you launch attacks on his character! Need I remind you that Mr. Clinton gave us 8 years of unprecedented economic growth, a balanced budget, economic surpluses, a reduction in violent crime, welfare reform, meaniful and targeted tax cuts to those who REALLY needed them (YOU!!!), tighter environmental controls, etc etc.

As for this liberal media bias...countless independent studies confirm it doesn't exist...except in the minds of right-wing conspiratists. But to my conservative foes may I suggest you simply tune your TV's to Fox News Channel...perhaps the most conservatively biased station ever created...can't actually remember the last time they ever had a moderate to liberal view on there. So much for their claims of being "fair and balanced".
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Now , now Mr. Someone.
I will give credit to Mr Clinton when it is due.
He listened well.
He was a smart politician.
He worked w/the Republican Congress and signed alot of the bills sponsered by them
But then he would take credit for them afterwards claiming they were "his idea"(welfare reform ect).-Character issue

Simutaneously our military was becoming weaker while he was in office..remember HIS WORDS-"I LOATHED THE MILITARY"..making our country MORE VULERNABLE to mad-men.

I bet you a sodie pop that GW will be re-elected in 2004..due to his character.

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bet you a sodie pop that GW will be re-elected in 2004..due to his character.
if he does get re-elected it doesn't necessarily mean people voted for his "character." in times of war and conflict people look for consistency/stability in office. i don't think his character has anything to do with it.
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I bet you a sodie pop that GW will be re-elected in 2004..due to his character.

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I'll bet you more than a 'sodie pop' that he won't... unless of course he has other family members that are governors.

And, as per you're purely republican diatribe, I'm sure you're PROUD of Bush's environmental policies (or lack there of) and how he is destroying some of the most beautiful land in the world, not to mention.. our oceans.

Lose the politics and siding with on side or another, and look around you. Our country is in the worst shape it has been for the past 12+ yrs. If you like it the way it is... I'd say that you have INCREDIBLY low standards for quality of life, both human and otherwise.
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he is destroying some of the most beautiful land in the world, not to mention.. our oceans.
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the USA isn't that much better than a third world country. there are huge gaps between the rich and the poor.

before you bash canada, ask yourselves this:

are there any programs to help the less fortunate? welfare? education programs?

are there beds for the homeless? in montreal, there is a bed for every homeless person. whether they choose to use them is their choice.

what about a health care system? in canada, there are PUBLIC and PRIVATE health care systems.

as far as standards of living are concerned, canada is a better place to live--we are only beaten by norway.
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My beverage of choice=Diet Coke. : -for the record to be collected from you in due time.

The point is ..that HE HAS THE CHARACTER TO LEAD in a time of WAR, whilst his predecessor did not-check approval ratings during miltary operations..

Once you get over THAT I will gladly help some of you re-register as sexy republicans.

And Madamac-I beg to differ.
You sound silly..the average person in poverty HERE has 2.5 televisions in their homes..some even a computer.

And even w/the best medical treatment offered in Canada..MOST Canadaians opt to come to the USA for the most ADVANCED medical care.

Elvis I just drove 1500 miles thru-out our country..it doesnt look better or worse that 12 yrs ago.

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the USA isn't that much better than a third world country.
You've obviously never lived in one.
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...Bush's environmental policies (or lack there of) and how he is destroying some of the most beautiful land in the world, not to mention.. our oceans.

probably my #1 gripe with the prez
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I'll bet you more than a 'sodie pop' that he won't... unless of course he has other family members that are governors.
In case you forgot, after the official recount was finished George W. Bush won anyway, no matter what type of lies and voter-fraud they tried to stick to his brother or Mrs. Harris.

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And, as per you're purely republican diatribe, I'm sure you're PROUD of Bush's environmental policies (or lack there of) and how he is destroying some of the most beautiful land in the world, not to mention.. our oceans.
If you are referring to America as some of the most beautiful land in the world, I wonder what is it he has done to try and destroy it. Could it be that big 747 he flies around in that guzzles all of the toxic JP8 fuel? That was Clinton's plane for 8 years too. What about all the gas wasted for the President's lack of carpooling in his motorcade? (Clinton is also guilty here) Or maybe he just plain likes oil. (you guessed it)

To reverse the effects of what we are "told" (by liberal scientists with flawed logic too btw) is going on here, to this and all of the beautiful lands, we are all in need of a big change. Because we are all guilty, not just the republicans. That means you too Mr. Web-Designer. Perhaps without electricity our land would still be destroyed (damage already done no?) but we wouldn't have this forum to look at

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Lose the politics and siding with on side or another, and look around you. Our country is in the worst shape it has been for the past 12+ yrs.
Yes it is, and thankfully we are at least going to iron out the security issues and then get the economy back that took a dive as the Clinton administration was stealing the W's off the white house keyboards and raiding the VP's house of antique furniture.



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I'd say that you have INCREDIBLY low standards for quality of life, both human and otherwise.
Kinda harsh??????
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My beverage of choice=Diet Coke. : -for the record to be collected from you in due time.

The point is ..that HE HAS THE CHARACTER TO LEAD in a time of WAR, whilst his predecessor did not-check approval ratings during miltary operations..

Once you get over THAT I will gladly help some of you re-register as sexy republicans.


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You totally ignored everything I stated, like most politicians... avoiding facts that cant be disputed... and then turning it all into a joke. pathetic.

W has the character to snort coke and have his brother shaft a democratic election process. But those things never happened did they Dave? Neither did the holocaust, Kosovo, or the Japanese incampment... right? lol.

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