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Old 10-19-2005, 03:17 PM   #16
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Hey YBORCITYOBL......welcome to the "hunker down club"....I've been this way since last hurricane season....and I can't "unhunker" myself. I remember a number of years back we had a hurricane strength storm I believe it was in March....they called it the "unnamed storm"....remembered it ripped the skylight off my roof.






I'm thinking of taking up haarp lessons....but a good harp is hard to find.....
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stay safe wizard2c and everyone else here affected

I am hoping and praying for the best for all concerned
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Old 10-19-2005, 03:35 PM   #18
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Those in the Northeast U.S. need to keep watch on Wilma. Some computer models are forcasting Wilma to phase with a powerful low pressure area dropping into the plains and northeast. This would be similar to 'The perfect storm' only on top of New England. This is only a slight chance, but is a real possibility.
I will search for a link that mentions the models forcasting this.
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Old 10-19-2005, 05:36 PM   #19
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this is why Bush's whole "global warming needs more study" is every bit as absurdist and political as "the jury is still out on evolution."
I find this statement to be utterly absurd.
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Old 10-19-2005, 09:24 PM   #20
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Er, yes, actually it is. Drawing simple lines between largely separated event may help you reinforce an idea you want to believe, but it is not supported by science.

That is how horoscopes work.
Just like "Intelligent Design" eh?

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Old 10-19-2005, 10:30 PM   #21
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a. anyone who thinks that all of the shit we pump into the air on a daily basis has no adverse effects on our environment and atmosphere needs a reality check. it doesn't take a genius to figure out basic cause and effect relationships. whether or not this directly affects hurricanes is beyond my knowledge.

b. if we're lucky jesus is following close behind wilma. this will all be over soon enough.
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Old 10-19-2005, 10:55 PM   #22
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Actually figuring out causation versus correlation can be tricky, especially with global climate models. It is not mad to ask how much mankind effects global climate, what will happen, what benefits and what costs may there be and is it worth curbing emissions.

Climate change need not be doomsday.
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Old 10-19-2005, 10:59 PM   #23
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again i am no scientist. it just seems common sense would indicate that action does not go without some sort of consequence.

i figured part b was obvious sarcasm.
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Old 10-19-2005, 11:07 PM   #24
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No it was not. The earth has experienced significant climate changes during it's history through entirely natural processes, some of them occured very recently, geologically speaking. I would wager that some effects from global warming would be beneficial.

I think that we should be more worried about the possibility of a supervolcanic erruption than global warming.
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I know next to nothing about science and can't quote any scientific reports leaning either way. It does seem logical that global warming will eventually come back to haunt us. Still, if it's really the main factor in this year's hurricane season, that doesn't explain why 11 of the 15 most intense hurricanes recorded occured more than 50 years ago.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastint.shtml
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No it was not.
how unfortunate.
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And why might that be?

Is it not reasonable to try and objectively look at effects and then weigh up costs rather than leap to a conclusion and tow the line regardless of how much it will cost you and how little the benefit is?
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Just heard on the news it could come around here. Like we didn't have enough rain already! There's a dam in one of the towns that's about to burst.


Question: With all this crazy weather that is happening around the world do you think that its like the movie : Day After Tomorrow?
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Haven't they all been "The Big One" recently? It just seems like they always say that.


neverless they have all been really scary storms, I hope everyone in its path stays safe!
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