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Old 12-16-2005, 06:11 AM   #1
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Is this enough for impeachment?

Apparently....

The Bush Administration went beyond the scope of the Patriot Act. I suppoerted the Patriot Act in this forum because I believed they would stay within the warrent process. If this is true and the White House did violate this portion of the law, I would entertain the thought of impeachment.

I am as of today writing my Congressman and Senators asking them to oppose the Patriot Act II next week. I cannot believe that they will not again move beyond the scope of the law.

I am disappointed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/15/po...gewanted=print
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Old 12-16-2005, 06:30 AM   #2
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I just have to wonder, what is the point of fighting terror if by doing so we are just going to destroy our own freedoms?
Of course I don't believe that the only way to fight terror is to spy on American emails
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That is a gross violation of peoples right to privacy and just goes to show the flipside of electronic communications - everything can be tracked very easily.
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So maybe i shouldn't write on this thing that Alberto Gonzales is a big fat piece of poop..........oh no i'm being sent to Camp X-ray
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Old 12-16-2005, 07:23 AM   #5
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if this is why Bush did it..

"effort to track possible "dirty numbers" linked to Al Qaeda"

than no.
And most Americans would concur with this answer.

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if this is why Bush did it..

"effort to track possible "dirty numbers" linked to Al Qaeda"

than no.
And most Americans would concur with this answer.
In the words of those who impeached Clinton over frivolous things:

"It doesn't matter. He broke the law."

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What do you think they´re doing at the NSA all the year.

Bush is not going to be impeached even if he continues to break the law. He already broke international law on multiple occasions. I remember the tapping of Kofi Annan´s phone, for example.

Dreadsox, I hope it does not hurt your noble heart (and yes, I think it is noble to write to Congressmen against P II) too much when I repeat that Bush is a criminal. That´s how you call people who break the law.
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if this is why Bush did it..

"effort to track possible "dirty numbers" linked to Al Qaeda"

than no.
And most Americans would concur with this answer.

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He has the restrictions put in place by the Patriot Act to abide by. If this is true, he is in violation of the law. The restrictions were put in the law for a reason.

There should be an investigation and the new legislation should die.
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impeach!!! impeach!!!

heard of a sign yesterday ... or maybe it was in Mrs. S's journal ... can't remember ... but it said, "Will someone please give that man a blow job so we can impeach him?"
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In addition to that, Bob Novak was quoted this week saying he believes the president knows who leaked Valerie Plame's name and won't fire that person [i.e. Rove although Novak didn't say that]. You support torture, which breaks international treaties, you allow wire taping, which violates U.S. law, you allow someone to blow the cover of a spy, which breaks SOOOO many laws and puts lives at risk, and you're still in office.

And yet, Clinton was impeached for a blow job? A BLOW JOB? Ha, we really should be calling Bush the Teflon President. NOTHING sticks to that guy.
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I am surprised that anyone is surprised that Bush would do something like this. I'm actually shocked.
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I'm not at all surprised, as much as it pains me to say that.
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Quote:
Originally posted by diamond
if this is why Bush did it..

"effort to track possible "dirty numbers" linked to Al Qaeda"

than no.
And most Americans would concur with this answer.

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You don't know what you are talking about.
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