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Old 12-20-2005, 11:33 AM   #91
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Thanks for posting that
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Yeah, I think this could finally bring the bastard down.
If not this, I'm sure his opponents will come up with something else.
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I love how some people don't care whether he follows the law. They just blindly take it.

No one is above the law.
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If not this, I'm sure his opponents will come up with something else.
But if he got a blow job you'd be screaming impeachment...

Wow the priorities...
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If not this, I'm sure his opponents will come up with something else.


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I'm guessing this won't last long.

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Bush’s support jumps after long decline
Poll shows growing optimism on Iraq, economy

By Dan Balz and Richard Morin

Updated: 8:53 a.m. ET Dec. 20, 2005

President Bush's approval rating has surged in recent weeks, reversing what had been an extended period of decline, with Americans now expressing renewed optimism about the future of democracy in Iraq, the campaign against terrorism and the U.S. economy, according to the latest Washington Post-ABC News Poll.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10538012/
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I'm guessing this won't last long.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10538012/
What won't last long?

the outrage at his illegalities?


or


the bump in the polls?
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I'm guessing the bump.
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The bump, yes.
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What won't last long?

the outrage at his illegalities?


or


the bump in the polls?
The right has displayed a philosophy that's it's alright to break the law as long as they approve. Approval negates legality.
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Basically this is an issue of laws being broken, but that the Bush apologists are trying to spin into a dem vs repub issue. If they can make it into an "us vs them" issue, they'll get support. Since the media seems to be mostly Bush-friendly, I don't expect much to come of this.

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That we haven't had any terrorists attacks on our soil post 9-11 -01 makes this policy worthwhile.
Could've said the same thing on 9-10-01.

My concern is that they're spying on political opponents and not terrorists. The fact that they didn't go through the proper channels and get warrants makes it seem like they were worried the warrants would not be approved. Hmmmm...
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:57 PM   #102
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Whose district are you in? Moran?

Sen. Warner is hopefully pretty pissed about this but I bet Allen is sucking up to Bush.

Yes, Moran's. He and even Warner might be ok, but Allen def. is in Bush's pocket. All the more reason for a phone call. He know his seat is up in 2006.
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The bump, yes.
in the thread about his last address

i said he would get this bump

it is mostly from his base


they will not care so much about this spying
and are happy he is being more forceful and less of a punching bag

his polls can get to around 50-52

but will never approach 60 again

his base will not abandon over this issue
he will keep blurring it as 9-11 related,

and their attitude will be
we have not had any more attacks

and who cares if you got nothing to hide

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But if he got a blow job you'd be screaming impeachment...

Wow the priorities...
Funny that you alluded to Clinton. I don't see any difference between Monicagate and whatever you want to call this. Clinton's opponents had already made a judgement against him from day one and they simply looked for anything to bring him down. Bush is in the same situation. I doubt anyone on this board (except maybe Dreadsox) had any love for Bush when he entered office. Now it seems that people here (and elsewhere) are looking for anything to justify that hatred.

If it turns out that Bush did not break any laws, will anyone here let it go? Somehow I doubt it.

As it turned out, Clinton did, in fact, break laws. And if it turns out that Bush did the same, he should pay for it.

I'm just withholding judgement until all of the facts come in. I don't particularly like egg on my face.
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his base will not abandon over this issue
he will keep blurring it as 9-11 related,

and their attitude will be
we have not had any more attacks

and who cares if you got nothing to hide
I'm so old, I remember when it was the conservatives who were suspicious of government. My how times have changed.
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