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Old 10-23-2007, 03:44 PM   #136
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Aaaaaand ... what - gay people AREN'T part of American society? Or any society?
Sure, they are. But I´m against making a character for the sake of furthering tolerance instead of it being a legitimate literary need.
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Sure, they are. But I´m against making a character for the sake of furthering tolerance instead of it being a legitimate literary need.
I've read this entire thread and, after this last reply, all I really have to say is
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Sure, they are. But I´m against making a character for the sake of furthering tolerance instead of it being a legitimate literary need.
Who said it was for the sake of furthering tolerance?
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You are making a huge assumption that that is the reason Rowling made the character gay. Authors like to flesh out their characters, and often times not all of the character makes it onto the page.

And besides, even if (and that's a big if) she made him gay to further tolerance, since when is furthering tolerance a bad thing?
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Who said it was for the sake of furthering tolerance?
You really think there´s a "legitimate" literary need? Process of elimination, really...
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You really think there´s a "legitimate" literary need? Process of elimination, really...
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Authors like to flesh out their characters, and often times not all of the character makes it onto the page.
It's called making the characters more real. The more backstory a character has, the more real and convincing they are, to the audience and to the author.
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You really think there´s a "legitimate" literary need? Process of elimination, really...
What is a "legitimate literary need?" Was it necessary at all to write a seven part series on wizards? Was it necessary for any work of fiction to exist?

Give me a break.
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Ugh, tolerance.


No, seriously, why do you always ignore some important facts, like:
1. She was asked, so she answered, honestly.
2. She didn't include it in the book because it was not relevant for the story, but to create this story she developed complex characters with a backlife.
3. Children will not think for a second about what you include here, the sex aspect, of sexual orientation.

You are constantly ignoring those facts and speaking of this mysterious "agenda" people have. Why?
Isn't it because of your own bias?

And children's books should deal with social aspects and educate children. No child will be left traumatized by it.


And isn't there even death of characters involved, violent death? So, seriously, why all the fuss about one character being homosexual, and nothing about violence?
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Sure, they are. But I´m against making a character for the sake of furthering tolerance instead of it being a legitimate literary need.
Someone could ignorantly argue that there isn't literary legitimante reason for black or latino characters, in fact we could just go back to the day where all the female characters were actually played by men.

Your arguments are baseless, useless, and ignorant.
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gay homosexual

Well, I would be shocked if he was a gay heterosexual.
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Nobody here would even concede the fact that it was unnecessary for her to do something like that.
To answer a question? These things have a canon, the authors own thoughts on the subject probably have implications for the criticism of the book.
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Does anyone think Frodo and Sam were gay? Just sayin...
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Sure, they are. But I´m against making a character for the sake of furthering tolerance instead of it being a legitimate literary need.



and what if i told you that's how i feel about Ugly Betty? and that she got an Emmy just because she's Latino?
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Does anyone think Frodo and Sam were gay? Just sayin...
Gayer than a picnic basket.

Seriously the woman was asked a question, she answered it as she saw fit. She didn't call a press conference on CNN out of the blue to push some kind of gay agenda, whatever that's supposed to mean.
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I'm still waiting for an answer to what I asked a few pages back:

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When the character's sexual orienation wasn't known, none of you were bothered, but now that it is, all of a sudden it's a big deal? Come on now. If he were straight, would those of you who have issues with this still be having all this hoopla?
Anyone? I really want an answer.

It's just a character in a book, people. Get over it already.

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