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Old 10-18-2006, 03:34 PM   #76
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So your saying music of a certain genre has no influnce on people??
im saying rap isnt specifically telling our children to kill people.
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But it still puts the idea in there heads. Hitler was a masterful speaker and he influenced a whole nation. What makes you think music can't do that??? Especially Violent music.
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So your saying music of a certain genre has no influnce on people??
No, I would say that people are drawn towards one type of music or another depending on who and what their environment has predestined them to be drawn to.

I was the Biggest Ozzy/Black Sabbath fan in the world. I listened to nothing but. I was an angry young man. I hated the world. I hated my family.

When I got out of that environment, joined the army, put myself through college, got my head on straight, I no longer found myself drawn to the messgae in the music. I changed.

Do I still listen to Ozzy, sure, occasionaly. I enjoy it. But I sit and shake my head at the person I was at the time.
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No, I would say that people are drawn towards one type of music or another depending on who and what their environment has predestined them to be drawn to.

I was the Biggest Ozzy/Black Sabbath fan in the world. I listened to nothing but. I was an angry young man. I hated the world. I hated my family.

When I got out of that environment, joined the army, put myself through college, got my head on straight, I no longer found myself drawn to the messgae in the music. I changed.

Do I still listen to Ozzy, sure, occasionaly. I enjoy it. But I sit and shake my head at the person I was at the time.
But you see what you have written is a perfect example. Look what it did to you. Now look at what rap does. Kids who defy authority, hurt people, hurt themselves, use drugs, buy guns, want bling, bang hoes as they put it.
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But it still puts the idea in there heads. Hitler was a masterful speaker and he influenced a whole nation. What makes you think music can't do that??? Especially Violent music.
So now are you suggesting censorship? Are you more in support of a society that is controlled by the opinion of those in charge? How is that not related to Hitler influence????
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I am not asking for censorship, I am asking that the artist be more away of what there music does to the youth.
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I see what you mean.

However I don't presume artists to be responsible for my kids, or for my own upbringing. Thats for family to filter, teach, etc.

Granted, I am thrilled when I listen to other music with messages of encouragement and hope. However when I hear a rap song projecting the opposite, I don't blame it for the downfall of our youth.
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Granted, I am thrilled when I listen to other music with messages of encouragement and hope. However when I hear a rap song projecting the opposite, I don't blame it for the downfall of our youth.
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But you see what you have written is a perfect example. Look what it did to you. Now look at what rap does. Kids who defy authority, hurt people, hurt themselves, use drugs, buy guns, want bling, bang hoes as they put it.
Wrong....

The music was a symptom...not a cause. You missed my point. The music did not do that to me.
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I was drawn to the message in the music because of what I was going through in my environment.

[Q]Suicide Solution

Wine is fine but whiskeys quicker
Suicide is slow with liquor
Take a bottle and drown your sorrows
Then it floods away tomorrows

Evil thoughts and evil doings
Cold, alone you hang in ruins
Thought that youd escape the reaper
You cant escape the master keeper

cause you feel like youre living a lie
Such a shame whos to blame and youre wondering why
Then you ask from your cask us there life after birth
What you sow can mean hell on this earth

Now you live inside a bottle
The reapers traveling at full throttle
Its catching you but you dont see
The reaper is you and the reaper is me

Breaking laws, knocking doors
But theres no one at home
Made your bed, rest your head
But you lie there and moan
Where to hide, suicide is the only way out
Dont you know what its really about[/Q]

When I hear this music, I am almost transported back to that very angry place I was at. Controlling parents, Divorcing Parents, Abusive Parent....
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Yesterday has been and gone
Tomorrow will I find the sun
Or will it rain?
Everybody's having fun
Except me I'm the lonely one
I live in shame

Chorus:
I said Goodbye to romance, Yeah!
Goodbye to friends, I'll tell ya!!
Goodbye to all the past
I guess that we'll meet,
We'll meet in the end

I've been the king, I've been the clown
Now broken wings can't hold me down
I'm free again
The jester with the broken crown
It's won't be me this time around
To love in vain

Chorus:
I said Goodbye to romance, Yeah!
Goodbye to friends, I tell ya!!
Goodbye to all the past
I guess that we'll meet,
We'll meet in the end

Bridge:
And I feel the time is right
Although I know that you just might
Say to me
Whatcha gonna do
Whatcha gonna do

'Cause I have to take this chance
Goodbye to friends and too romance
And to all of you
And to all of you
Come on now!!!!

Solo

Chorus:
I said Goodbye to romance, yeah!
Goodbye to friends, I tell ya!!
Goodbye to all the past
I guess that we'll meet,
We'll meet in the end

And the weather's looking fine
And I think the sun will shine again
And I feel I've cleared my mind
All the past is left behind again

Chorus:
I said Goodbye to romance, yeah!
Goodbye to friends, I tell ya!!
Goodbye to all the past
I guess that we'll meet,
We'll meet in the end.
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no im not saying the image is similar at all. im saying that hip hop artists are conveying a message very different from rappers. i don't see how what i said before at all infers some sort of similarity.

and i don't appreciate the shoot me comment.
The chains, the cars, the girls, the houses, the entourages I'm not sure what you're seeing, but it seems the same to me. Now the message of the songs themselves, I agree they're different; but that's not what I mean by image.

Sorry about the comment, but you said I was straying into dangerous territory; struck me as funny given the context.
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I like the old days,when RUN-DMC told kids to work hard for things in life and spoke of going to college.
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I have tried to answer ur Liberal Question.
Then your defintion of a "liberal society" should be defined, because I haven't seen any example that fits the comment you made.
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