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Old 10-18-2006, 02:47 PM   #46
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no, rap is real. Real people. Sopranos is a script, actors and directors.
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If someone wants to refute me w/ actual data, then I am all in favor of it, but I am also positive that:

(1) the US has more homicides per capita than any other country;

(2) vast majority of US homicides come from gunshoot wounds.

If you restrict guns, you reduce homicides. Every other first-world country has already figured this out. This so-called "downward spiral of youth culture" doesn't come from hip-hop or gangsta rap, it comes from the proliferation of guns.

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That's such a specious argument... Besides, how do you restrict guns? If you put laws restricting guns into effect, guess who obeys them? The law abiding citizens. Criminals will get guns from other places and make the law abiding citizens more defenseless.
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A liberal society tells kids it's ok to more free from parental control
Can you give examples of that?? A) I highly doubt we live in a "liberal society" B) I probably had more of a "liberal" upbringing than others, but that doesn't mean I felt like I was free from parental control.
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So? How come no one gets mad when the same thing happens in The Sopranos or Goodfellas? It's just art, man. It's pretend, it's not real. Duh....
Goodfellas and the Sopranos are not marketed to 10 year olds.
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BVS, please don't talk to other posters like that, I don't care how passionately you disagree.
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But if you listened to Hip-Hop/Gangsta rap they talk about how there going to smoke the n---- with there piece.

please please PLEASE do not intertwine Hip-Hop and Gangsta rap. As I said before they are two COMPLETELY different genres with different purposes and different messages behind the music.
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It's cool BVS no problems. Come to San Francisco and you will find out what I am talking about RedHotSwami. This town is fucked up. We have city supervisors yelling for the resignation of a radio DJ for a comment he made about Gay Men and having babies with Lesbians, yet the same supervisors wanted to ban a christian concert that would have brought in Hundreds of thousands of dollars for the city. They accussed all the people attending to be gay bashers.
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But the majority of rap here in the US is borderline trash music that influences kids. If Cigaretts and alchohal can do what it does to people, dont think music can't.
I suggest listening to some rap music from other countries. For the most part, the same themes are addressed. However, as was pointed out before, the violence is significantly different.

They may require a translation, but you can always use babelfish. It's more of a literal translation, but at least you will get the general idea.
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A liberal society tells kids it's ok to more free from parental control, to accept what is given to them, other wise it's racism, bigotry etc.. so you can't blame music(rap) for any problems.
Examples Justin. Evidence Justin. Something...

Anyone can say liberal society says
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please please PLEASE do not intertwine Hip-Hop and Gangsta rap. As I said before they are two COMPLETELY different genres with different purposes and different messages behind the music.
True different music; at least to degree. But the image is pretty much the same.
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It's cool BVS no problems. Come to San Francisco and you will find out what I am talking about RedHotSwami. This town is fucked up. We have city supervisors yelling for the resignation of a radio DJ for a comment he made about Gay Men and having babies with Lesbians, yet the same supervisors wanted to ban a christian concert that would have brought in Hundreds of thousands of dollars for the city. They accussed all the people attending to be gay bashers.
Justin, as I said in an earlier post, I grew up on streets many others stayed away from. I lived in towns where rap music was the primary choice of genre. I can't speak for everyone in the town, but I myself am not a delinquent. So clearly there is something more serious at effect here than the music.
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True different music; at least to degree. But the image is pretty much the same.
No the image is not the same. Hip-hop artists aren't out to have the blingiest chains or the pimpest cars. That is a very dangerous generalization you are making.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NG6OHU6RR1.DTL

What do you think the problem is then, if it's not rap?
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http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...9/ai_102658338

"Nelly's pumped-out new video got ya rap juices flowing? Ever wonder if hour upon hour of music video watching has any effect other than making your hip-hop dance skills off the hook? For a year, a group of researchers studied 522 14- to 18year-old girls who regularly watched rap videos. The study found that girls who watched the most rap vids per week were more likely to take drugs, get arrested and catch STDs. So what is it about rap videos that makes girls go wild? "It could be that they're seeing what other girls are doing in these videos and modeling what they see," says Gina Wingood, study co-author and associate professor of behavioral sciences and health education at Emory University. "They think that this is how you're supposed to be. This is the norm." Another key factor is a lack of parental supervision among the girls who watched rap more often. So, next time your'e getting down to your fave count down and Nelly croons, "I think I need to let fever. But don't get it loose ," sure, get dance all wrapped up in a more fake than it is glam."
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But you do realize that with rap music, east coast west coast rap wars erupted.
The vast, vast majority of hip-hop/rap acts and artists are non-violent and are just musicians. Don't let a couple of headlines fool you.
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