Is rap music one of the main contributions to youth delinquency
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BVS
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Justin24 said:
That is complete bullshit!!!
I know you are much smarter than that Justin.
At least try and come up with an intelligent answer.
If you are going spew such shit, at least give an example.
An example of why kids are weak??? Parents is one, they need someone to look up to?? MTV I am guessing. What happened to looking up to such people as JFK, Ghandi, Mother Theresa or others. I can bet you they would not know who Mother Theresa or Ghandi were.
redhotswami
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Justin24 said:
No, I think you missed my point. The death penalty has existed for ages. You said that instead of finding out what is wrong with society rap music encourages us to kill our enemies.
What I was saying was that there were structures in society that encouraged that way of thinking well before rap music existed, i.e., the death penalty.
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Justin24 said:
None of this explains your liberal society answer.
Come on, Justin!!!
redhotswami
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Justin24 said:
Right, and like I said, it is the parent/s fault, not rap music.
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BVS, please don't talk to other posters like that, I don't care how passionately you disagree.
LyricalDrug
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If someone wants to refute me w/ actual data, then I am all in favor of it, but I am also positive that:
(1) the US has more homicides per capita than any other country;
(2) vast majority of US homicides come from gunshoot wounds.
If you restrict guns, you reduce homicides. Every other first-world country has already figured this out. This so-called "downward spiral of youth culture" doesn't come from hip-hop or gangsta rap, it comes from the proliferation of guns.
Obligatory U2 content: check U2's "Bullet the Blue Sky" from Elevation Boston...
(1) the US has more homicides per capita than any other country;
(2) vast majority of US homicides come from gunshoot wounds.
If you restrict guns, you reduce homicides. Every other first-world country has already figured this out. This so-called "downward spiral of youth culture" doesn't come from hip-hop or gangsta rap, it comes from the proliferation of guns.
Obligatory U2 content: check U2's "Bullet the Blue Sky" from Elevation Boston...
redhotswami
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LyricalDrug said:
There is more rap than just American rap. There are loads of others too. And these other countries still don't have quite the level gun violence that we have in the united states.
LyricalDrug
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Justin24 said:
So? How come no one gets mad when the same thing happens in The Sopranos or Goodfellas? It's just art, man. It's pretend, it's not real. Duh....
redhotswami said:
But the majority of rap here in the US is borderline trash music that influences kids. If Cigaretts and alchohal can do what it does to people, dont think music can't.
The_One1932
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no, rap is real. Real people. Sopranos is a script, actors and directors.
Snowlock
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LyricalDrug said:
That's such a specious argument... Besides, how do you restrict guns? If you put laws restricting guns into effect, guess who obeys them? The law abiding citizens. Criminals will get guns from other places and make the law abiding citizens more defenseless.
redhotswami
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Justin24 said:
Can you give examples of that?? A) I highly doubt we live in a "liberal society" B) I probably had more of a "liberal" upbringing than others, but that doesn't mean I felt like I was free from parental control.
Snowlock
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LyricalDrug said:
Goodfellas and the Sopranos are not marketed to 10 year olds.
BVS
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yolland said:
My apologies...
redhotswami
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Justin24 said:
please please PLEASE do not intertwine Hip-Hop and Gangsta rap. As I said before they are two COMPLETELY different genres with different purposes and different messages behind the music.
It's cool BVS no problems. Come to San Francisco and you will find out what I am talking about RedHotSwami. This town is fucked up. We have city supervisors yelling for the resignation of a radio DJ for a comment he made about Gay Men and having babies with Lesbians, yet the same supervisors wanted to ban a christian concert that would have brought in Hundreds of thousands of dollars for the city. They accussed all the people attending to be gay bashers.
redhotswami
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Justin24 said:
I suggest listening to some rap music from other countries. For the most part, the same themes are addressed. However, as was pointed out before, the violence is significantly different.
They may require a translation, but you can always use babelfish. It's more of a literal translation, but at least you will get the general idea.
BVS
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Justin24 said:
Examples Justin. Evidence Justin. Something...
Anyone can say liberal society says
Snowlock
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redhotswami said:
True different music; at least to degree. But the image is pretty much the same.
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Justin24 said:
Justin, as I said in an earlier post, I grew up on streets many others stayed away from. I lived in towns where rap music was the primary choice of genre. I can't speak for everyone in the town, but I myself am not a delinquent. So clearly there is something more serious at effect here than the music.
redhotswami
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Snowlock said:
No the image is not the same. Hip-hop artists aren't out to have the blingiest chains or the pimpest cars. That is a very dangerous generalization you are making.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/25/MNG6OHU6RR1.DTL
What do you think the problem is then, if it's not rap?
What do you think the problem is then, if it's not rap?
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0IBX/is_6_9/ai_102658338
"Nelly's pumped-out new video got ya rap juices flowing? Ever wonder if hour upon hour of music video watching has any effect other than making your hip-hop dance skills off the hook? For a year, a group of researchers studied 522 14- to 18year-old girls who regularly watched rap videos. The study found that girls who watched the most rap vids per week were more likely to take drugs, get arrested and catch STDs. So what is it about rap videos that makes girls go wild? "It could be that they're seeing what other girls are doing in these videos and modeling what they see," says Gina Wingood, study co-author and associate professor of behavioral sciences and health education at Emory University. "They think that this is how you're supposed to be. This is the norm." Another key factor is a lack of parental supervision among the girls who watched rap more often. So, next time your'e getting down to your fave count down and Nelly croons, "I think I need to let fever. But don't get it loose ," sure, get dance all wrapped up in a more fake than it is glam."
"Nelly's pumped-out new video got ya rap juices flowing? Ever wonder if hour upon hour of music video watching has any effect other than making your hip-hop dance skills off the hook? For a year, a group of researchers studied 522 14- to 18year-old girls who regularly watched rap videos. The study found that girls who watched the most rap vids per week were more likely to take drugs, get arrested and catch STDs. So what is it about rap videos that makes girls go wild? "It could be that they're seeing what other girls are doing in these videos and modeling what they see," says Gina Wingood, study co-author and associate professor of behavioral sciences and health education at Emory University. "They think that this is how you're supposed to be. This is the norm." Another key factor is a lack of parental supervision among the girls who watched rap more often. So, next time your'e getting down to your fave count down and Nelly croons, "I think I need to let fever. But don't get it loose ," sure, get dance all wrapped up in a more fake than it is glam."
LyricalDrug
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Justin24 said:
The vast, vast majority of hip-hop/rap acts and artists are non-violent and are just musicians. Don't let a couple of headlines fool you.
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