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Old 09-30-2008, 11:36 PM   #556
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Because, to release it all at once would be mass murder through laughing or crying (individual responses are different).
ahh, yes, too much of that at once and too early, would not benefit some people.
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Sting, do you think Sarah Palin was the right choice?

I said right away she was the wrong choice, but even I couldn't have imagined this horror show.
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Strongbow, it is a second, completely separate interview isn't it? Couric asks her about the response to the initial one 'a week ago' during it.
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Sting, do you think Sarah Palin was the right choice?

I said right away she was the wrong choice, but even I couldn't have imagined this horror show.
Based strictly on her experience as a governor and having the highest approval rating, before being picked, of any politician in the country, yes. For the past 40 years, the winning ticket in every presidential election has always had at least one person that was a governor or former governor except in 1988. Having someone that is considered outside the beltway has been important to Americans for the past 40 years. So that tends to be an important winning element, which is why Obama nearly picked Tim Kaine.

The current "horrow show" is essentially based on a single interview. If you think you can sum up a person in just a few questions or statements, then I can list plenty of things that people like Al Gore have said that would raise just as many questions as Palin's CBS interview.

Regardless of whether one thinks the interview is a fair representation of her knowledge and ability or not, clearly the public perception that is being formed from the interview is a negative one. Its hard to tell how much of an impact it has had, if at all given that McCain's poll numbers did not really start to drop until the financial crises which started before the CBS interview.

I'm definitely concerned though because the last thing McCain needs is his VP nominee causing harm to the ticket. Overall, I can't fully answer the question at the moment. In about 48 hours were going to hear her debate Joe Biden for 90 minutes, just 39 days after she was called by McCain to come visit him in Arizona. I'm sure there will be more interviews and speeches. Its going to depend on how I think she helps or hurts McCain's chances of winning. Clearly, she was a huge boost to the ticket when she was picked, and there simply is not another nominee that could have done what she did for McCain, at least initially.
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Strongbow, it is a second, completely separate interview isn't it? Couric asks her about the response to the initial one 'a week ago' during it.
I don't know and I did not see a part yet where she asks about an interview with Couric specifically from a week before.
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Yes, there are 2 interviews.

One is the horror show one.

The other one is the one where McCain showed up to babysit her like a father at a parent-teacher interview and then barely let her speak and railed against "gotcha journalists" which then prompted the networks to interview this "gotcha journalist" who turned out to be a voter that asked a genuine question in a pizza parlour where she was campaigning.
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I'm wondering if the bar hasn't been set extraordinarily low for Palin because of all her flubs. She might end up exceeding expectations come Thursday night.

I don't really think she's as dumb as she appears (and as we're blowing her up in our minds to be). It's not to say that I think she should be vice president (I don't) but I don't think she's truly a blooming idiot.
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I think the chances of her coming out better than everyone expects are very high.

The focus will be totally different to the Presidential debate, obviously. Afterwards, no-one is going to be picking through the details of whatever Biden said about the financial crisis or whatever, it will totally be about whether or not Palin said something completely stupid and how her and Biden handled each other. That’s it. Surely all the advice Biden is getting says that he should leave her alone, let her dig her own hole, no matter what she says, do not attack, do not be condescending. That gives her loads of room, maybe more space and less of a challenge than any candidate ever. All she has to do is regurgitate the kind of dumb talking points that the Republican base adores and show a bit of personality. She’s shown she knows those talking points back to front (just hasn’t really thought them through) and she’s certainly got personality. She just has to not ramble nonsense or say something truly stupid. The game Biden has to play is much more difficult. He’s the one stepping out into a minefield, not her. She just has to keep her head together and hope that the moderator doesn’t ask follow up questions to anything she says.
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I don't really think she's as dumb as she appears (and as we're blowing her up in our minds to be). It's not to say that I think she should be vice president (I don't) but I don't think she's truly a blooming idiot.

All joking aside, I don't think she's "dumb" or an idiot either. At this point in time in 2008 I just think she's out of her league and ill prepared for this job.

The only thing that's just as bad in my mind as overlooking a qualified woman for a job because she's a woman is choosing an unqualified one for the wrong reasons-for any reason. Especially for pandering to women reasons, that's offensive. I'd say the same if Obama had chosen an equally out of her league woman.
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I'm sticking with my feeling that she's dim. I'm not saying she has a shockingly low IQ, just that she's not a bright woman.

I don't blame her for this; it's McCain's fault.
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At this point in time in 2008 I just think she's out of her league and ill prepared for this job.

She's not the village idiot. But she's dumb in the sense that she thought she could pull this off. She's way in over her head. And it's not so much the experience factor as it is the fact that she comes off as someone who's lived in a very isolated world and she is content with that world. Now she's trying to cram the rest of the world into a few weeks of life...
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I'm sticking with my feeling that she's dim. I'm not saying she has a shockingly low IQ, just that she's not a bright woman.
I feel the same way. Clearly, we're elitist liberals because we actually are aware and somewhat knowledgeable of our government(s) and what is going on in the world around us. If only I had known it wasn't important, I could have saved myself a lot of learning and thought.
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I thought GWB was out of his league and in over his head and I still do-and we all know(well with the exception of a few unnamed holdouts) how that turned out.

Joe Six Pack? Is that like having a beer with Bush? I thought I read yesterday that the Palins own a bunch of property as well. She must be worried about foreclosure too. I don't think she's an "everyday working class American". I don't think any of the candidates are.

Palin says she represents 'Joe Six-pack'

Wed Oct 1, 12:47 AM ET

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin portrayed herself Tuesday as a champion of everyday people while noting her family's stock portfolio took a $20,000 hit last week.

"It's time that normal Joe Six-pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency," the Republican vice presidential candidate told radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt.

Palin said if she and John McCain win, they will "put government back on the side of the people of Joe Six-pack like me."

Palin said she and her husband, Todd, have been affected by the economic downturn.

"I know what Americans are going through," she said a day after a record 778-point plunge on Wall Street. "Todd and I, heck, we're going through that right now even as we speak, which may put me again kind of on the outs of those Washington elite who don't like the idea of just an everyday, working-class American running for such an office."

Palin makes $125,000 yearly as governor, and her husband makes about $90,000 a year combined from his commercial fishing business and his part-time job as a production operator on the North Slope.

Palin said her husband's 401(k) retirement account lost probably $20,000 in the last week as the market dropped.

According to the most recent state financial disclosure forms, filed March 10, 2008, the Palins had about $164,699 in a private investment account and $198,102 in a separate retirement account.

"The relatively low number of investments that we have, looking at the hit that we're taking, probably $20,000 last week in his 401(k) plan that was hit. I'm thinking, geez, the rest of America, they're facing the exact same thing that we are," she said.

Palin was asked to clarify why things are tight for her family.

"It's just the great financial crisis that America is in, as our savings accounts also, and a 401(k), they're being hit," she said.

She didn't explain how her savings account was being affected.
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I think we've had enough of a "Joe Six-pack" as president. We don't need one as VP.

We could use a Joe in office though.
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I wonder why America hasn't figured out Palin is a tool yet.

Out of all the possible choices for VPs, do some Americans actualy believe McCain really picked Palin for her "credentials?"

She obviously doesn't know what she's talking about. She's way in over her head and not ready to lead. And still I hear the excuses on the news networks that she has time to learn foreign policy and what not.

Hmm.....a month-long crash course on learning Vice-President 101. Wow, my confidence shot up tremendously.

Are people for real?
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