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Is Palin failin' ? or OMG McCain wins with Palin !! pt. 3
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Palin defends terrorist comment against Obama, says questioning link to Ayers is fair game
JIM KUHNHENN Associated Press Writer
AP
Sarah Palin defended her claim that Barack Obama "pals around with terrorists," saying the Democratic presidential nominee's association with a 1960s radical is an issue that is "fair to talk about."
Obama has denounced the radical views and actions of Bill Ayers, a founder of the violent Weather Underground group during the Vietnam era. On Sunday, Obama dismissed the criticism from the McCain campaign, leveled by Palin, as "smears" meant to distract voters from real problems such as the troubled economy.
Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate, launched the attack Saturday and repeated it twice Sunday, signaling a new strategy by John McCain's presidential campaign to go after Obama's character.
"The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn't been talked about," Palin said as she boarded her plane in Long Beach, Calif. "I think it's fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy's living room."
Later, at an Omaha rally, Palin elaborated on her attack, claiming one of Obama's advisers had described Obama and Ayers as "friendly."
"In fact, Obama held one of his first meetings hoping to kick off his political career in Bill Ayers' living room," she told the crowd, which had just raised $2.5 million for the Republican party's McCain-Palin Victory 2008 fund.
At issue is Obama's association with Ayers. Both have served on the same Chicago charity and live near each other in Chicago. Ayers also held a meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran for office in the mid-1990s, the event cited by Palin.
In February, Obama strategist David Axelrod told the Politico Web site: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school. They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together."
But while Ayers and Obama are acquainted, the charge that they "pal around" is a stretch of any reading of the public record. And it's simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts. Obama was 8 years old at the time the Weather Underground claimed credit for numerous bombings and was blamed for a pipe bomb that killed a San Francisco policeman.
At a rally in North Carolina, Obama countered that McCain and his campaign "are gambling that he can distract you with smears rather than talk to you about substance." The Democrat described the criticism as "Swiftboat-style attacks on me," a reference to the unsubstantiated allegations about 2004 Democratic nominee John Kerry's decorated military record in Vietnam.
During her stop in California, Palin was asked about an Associated Press analysis that said her charge about Ayers was unsubstantiated, a point made by other news organizations, and the criticism carried a "racially tinged subtext that McCain may come to regret."
"The Associated Press is wrong," Palin said, before arguing that the issue had not been adequately discussed.
In fact, Obama was questioned about Ayers during a prime-time Democratic debate against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton prior to April's Pennsylvania primary. And McCain himself raised Ayers as a subject during an interview with ABC News' George Stephanopoulos in April.
Palin, re-energized after last week's debate against Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, is animating the party's conservative wing with harsh attacks against Obama. She's courting high-dollar donors for campaign cash. And she is looking to wrestle away women and independent voters from the Democrats.
"The heels are on, the gloves are off," she declares, a threat delivered with a smile.
With that message, the campaign is sending her on a whirlwind tour of political trouble spots.
She was dispatched to Omaha on Sunday, a defensive move in one of the two states in the nation that can split their electoral votes. Her visit illustrated the depth of worry within the McCain camp. Since 1964, all five of the state's electoral votes have gone to the Republican presidential candidate. She denied being worried about the state, saying, "No, I'm going to Nebraska because I want to go to Nebraska."
On Monday, she begins a two-day, event-packed tour of Florida that stretches from Naples in the South to Pensacola in the panhandle. North Carolina and Pennsylvania are next.
Skilled with a crowd, she is still subject to slips.
In California, for instance, she seemed to lose her train of thought while discussing U.S. troop efforts in Afghanistan and referred to the country as "our neighboring country of Afghanistan."
"It was a mistake, a slip-up," said her spokeswoman, Tracey Schmitt.
She has fended off some criticism with humor. "People say that I speak too simply, or don't have quite the — I don't have my thesaurus in my back pocket all along through my speeches," she said over the weekend. "Well, I don't have time for that."
On Sunday she added a new line to her repertoire, joking that her missteps were meant to help her spot-on "Saturday Night Live" impersonator.
"I was trying to give Tina Fey more material," she said at the Omaha rally. "Job security for 'Saturday Night Live.'"
JIM KUHNHENN Associated Press Writer
AP
Sarah Palin defended her claim that Barack Obama "pals around with terrorists," saying the Democratic presidential nominee's association with a 1960s radical is an issue that is "fair to talk about."
Obama has denounced the radical views and actions of Bill Ayers, a founder of the violent Weather Underground group during the Vietnam era. On Sunday, Obama dismissed the criticism from the McCain campaign, leveled by Palin, as "smears" meant to distract voters from real problems such as the troubled economy.
Palin, the Republican vice presidential candidate, launched the attack Saturday and repeated it twice Sunday, signaling a new strategy by John McCain's presidential campaign to go after Obama's character.
"The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn't been talked about," Palin said as she boarded her plane in Long Beach, Calif. "I think it's fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy's living room."
Later, at an Omaha rally, Palin elaborated on her attack, claiming one of Obama's advisers had described Obama and Ayers as "friendly."
"In fact, Obama held one of his first meetings hoping to kick off his political career in Bill Ayers' living room," she told the crowd, which had just raised $2.5 million for the Republican party's McCain-Palin Victory 2008 fund.
At issue is Obama's association with Ayers. Both have served on the same Chicago charity and live near each other in Chicago. Ayers also held a meet-the-candidate event at his home for Obama when Obama first ran for office in the mid-1990s, the event cited by Palin.
In February, Obama strategist David Axelrod told the Politico Web site: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school. They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together."
But while Ayers and Obama are acquainted, the charge that they "pal around" is a stretch of any reading of the public record. And it's simply wrong to suggest that they were associated while Ayers was committing terrorist acts. Obama was 8 years old at the time the Weather Underground claimed credit for numerous bombings and was blamed for a pipe bomb that killed a San Francisco policeman.
At a rally in North Carolina, Obama countered that McCain and his campaign "are gambling that he can distract you with smears rather than talk to you about substance." The Democrat described the criticism as "Swiftboat-style attacks on me," a reference to the unsubstantiated allegations about 2004 Democratic nominee John Kerry's decorated military record in Vietnam.
During her stop in California, Palin was asked about an Associated Press analysis that said her charge about Ayers was unsubstantiated, a point made by other news organizations, and the criticism carried a "racially tinged subtext that McCain may come to regret."
"The Associated Press is wrong," Palin said, before arguing that the issue had not been adequately discussed.
In fact, Obama was questioned about Ayers during a prime-time Democratic debate against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton prior to April's Pennsylvania primary. And McCain himself raised Ayers as a subject during an interview with ABC News' George Stephanopoulos in April.
Palin, re-energized after last week's debate against Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, is animating the party's conservative wing with harsh attacks against Obama. She's courting high-dollar donors for campaign cash. And she is looking to wrestle away women and independent voters from the Democrats.
"The heels are on, the gloves are off," she declares, a threat delivered with a smile.
With that message, the campaign is sending her on a whirlwind tour of political trouble spots.
She was dispatched to Omaha on Sunday, a defensive move in one of the two states in the nation that can split their electoral votes. Her visit illustrated the depth of worry within the McCain camp. Since 1964, all five of the state's electoral votes have gone to the Republican presidential candidate. She denied being worried about the state, saying, "No, I'm going to Nebraska because I want to go to Nebraska."
On Monday, she begins a two-day, event-packed tour of Florida that stretches from Naples in the South to Pensacola in the panhandle. North Carolina and Pennsylvania are next.
Skilled with a crowd, she is still subject to slips.
In California, for instance, she seemed to lose her train of thought while discussing U.S. troop efforts in Afghanistan and referred to the country as "our neighboring country of Afghanistan."
"It was a mistake, a slip-up," said her spokeswoman, Tracey Schmitt.
She has fended off some criticism with humor. "People say that I speak too simply, or don't have quite the — I don't have my thesaurus in my back pocket all along through my speeches," she said over the weekend. "Well, I don't have time for that."
On Sunday she added a new line to her repertoire, joking that her missteps were meant to help her spot-on "Saturday Night Live" impersonator.
"I was trying to give Tina Fey more material," she said at the Omaha rally. "Job security for 'Saturday Night Live.'"
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In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."
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I love that half the country thinks Palin is a victim of the question, "What have you been reading lately?"
Reminds me of how Elisabeth Hasselbeck of The View tried to defend it by saying she was being extremely smart by not choosing one newspaper over another.
Come on, now!
One day I hope the media will truly grow a pair and just not cover Palin at all, since she sooooo doesn't need them.
Lovely.
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I love that half the country thinks Palin is a victim of the question, "What have you been reading lately?"
Reminds me of how Elisabeth Hasselbeck of The View tried to defend it by saying she was being extremely smart by not choosing one newspaper over another.
Come on, now!One day I hope the media will truly grow a pair and just not cover Palin at all, since she sooooo doesn't need them.
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Earnie Shavers
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I love it when Fox idiots complain about the 'biased mainstream media', then boast about being the #1 cable news channel, then go on about how much Obama sucks. Umm... there would be no more biased mainstream media source than Fox, by a million miles.
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^And it seems to work. People keep complaining about the "liberal MSM" and turn to Fox for getting "a balanced news source".
I think the 24h news channels are all politically biased entertainment programs.
I think the 24h news channels are all politically biased entertainment programs.
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I don’t know. The Fox feed we have in Australia is identical to the US, but we get CNN International, which I can only assume is quite different to the US version, as Fox and CNN to me are not comparable at all. No matter what time of day, you can pretty much guarantee that you can tune into Fox and catch one of only about 8-10 hosts mixing it with one of only about 20 regular guests that they rotate in and out, ranting on about the far left, ‘real Americans’ and little else. CNN have shows like Anderson Cooper’s or Wolf Blitzer’s show will have a panel discussing the election or debate or whatever, and you can see some bias there for sure, you can see talking points being pushed definitely, but it makes up so much less of CNN’s programming and is no where near as dumbed down as it is when Fox do it.
For a lot of the rest of the time, you can actually tune in to CNN to (shock) get some news. You can’t do that with Fox. If it can’t be broken down into some US-centric left/right argument, or it’s not a big enough story to warrant a neat catchphrase and some Michael Bay movie graphics and sound effects, then I guess it’s not worth it. Tune into CNN though and I might catch half an hour on Georgia, or a detailed report on Pakistan, and news headlines that not only cover the US from corner to corner, but the world as well. Fox are nothing like that. They are not a journalistic/news channel, they are an opinion/entertainment channel. (We don’t have MSNBC but is sounds like it’s far closer to Fox than CNN).
For a lot of the rest of the time, you can actually tune in to CNN to (shock) get some news. You can’t do that with Fox. If it can’t be broken down into some US-centric left/right argument, or it’s not a big enough story to warrant a neat catchphrase and some Michael Bay movie graphics and sound effects, then I guess it’s not worth it. Tune into CNN though and I might catch half an hour on Georgia, or a detailed report on Pakistan, and news headlines that not only cover the US from corner to corner, but the world as well. Fox are nothing like that. They are not a journalistic/news channel, they are an opinion/entertainment channel. (We don’t have MSNBC but is sounds like it’s far closer to Fox than CNN).
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That's right, the other channels have at least some minutes of an hour devoted to actual news, and it seems they even afford themselves the luxury of putting reporters and equipment into other countries (though I can't blame Fox, you just cannot trust these socialist countries and bring expensive equipment they might have never seen over there). However, I am not impressed with the overall quality of the news, and though they do cover some of the stories of around the world, they rarely spend time explaining the background or specifics of that country.
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Well that's what the BBC is for. 'News' and 'facts' and 'background' are elitist though, and certainly not fair and balanced.
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Ah yeah, and who wants to do what the British do. 
Not really. From what I recall when I was abroad, you're still getting the primetime "shows" and talking heads like Blitzer and Anderson Cooper and Larry King, the difference is that you have an international news version at different times during the day rather than just American news.
The international news shows on CNN are actually considerably better than the American ones. If I'm not mistaken, they're run out of London, and are pretty good. Unfortunately in Canada we get the US version only.
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Palin is trying to capture some of the youth (male) vote for the McCain/ Palin ticket.
that guy in the red sweat shirt can almost see Russia
that guy in the red sweat shirt can almost see Russia
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Palin is trying to capture some of the youth (male) vote for the McCain/ Palin ticket.
that guy in the red sweat shirt can almost see Russia
He has about as much foreign policy experience as she does, then.
Earnie Shavers
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Yes, there’s definitely that difference – we get Cooper/Blitzer/King etc, but the actual news broadcasts come out of London and (sometimes) Hong Kong. Some are brief updates (they’re on the hour, every hour), and a few times a day there’s the big half hour or hour long global run down + a few other Asia/Europe focused shows. I just wasn’t sure if in the US they are pretty much the same thing, just out of New York or wherever. Really disappointing if they’re not. Fox don’t actually show news at all, just really 5 stories + 5 talking points that get recycled through every single show all day, so if US CNN aren’t really doing proper national and global news either, its little wonder there’s such ignorance.
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There aren't enough eye-rolls to convey my feelings about this:
You might have seen Newsweek's latest cover of Sarah Palin. If you haven't, take a look. The left's blatant bias has crept from within its pages onto the cover shot. The latest Newsweek cover shows a magnified, purposefully unretouched photo of Sarah Palin that highlights every imperfection on her beautiful face. Women will understand this. We're talking unwanted facial hair, wrinkles, and un-extracted pores. Heck, we all have them. We just don't expect them to be showcased on the cover of a national magazine, especially when we are running for the position of second in command of the United States. Calling it unflattering is an understatement. Trust me.
Andrea Tantaros (she's a GOP media consultant and was interviewed on Fox News about this)
I'm sorry, I thought she was a real down-to-earth person .... just like us! You mean she shouldn't be shown to have wrinkles, blemishes, or *gasp* a hair on her upper lip?
Give me a freaking break. She claims they portrayed Obama on the cover in all his shining glory. But look! He looks good and real here - wrinkles and pockmarks and the whole shebang.
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/Picture_10-12.jpg
Here's the Newsweek cover in question:
http://coverawards.com/2008/10/08/news_newsweek_sarah_palin_cover_fire_4871/
Now, tell me - are any of you just reeling in horror of the shocking discovery that Sarah Palin ... has pores??? I mean, honestly. She looks fine and there is nothing wrong with that picture.
You might have seen Newsweek's latest cover of Sarah Palin. If you haven't, take a look. The left's blatant bias has crept from within its pages onto the cover shot. The latest Newsweek cover shows a magnified, purposefully unretouched photo of Sarah Palin that highlights every imperfection on her beautiful face. Women will understand this. We're talking unwanted facial hair, wrinkles, and un-extracted pores. Heck, we all have them. We just don't expect them to be showcased on the cover of a national magazine, especially when we are running for the position of second in command of the United States. Calling it unflattering is an understatement. Trust me.
Andrea Tantaros (she's a GOP media consultant and was interviewed on Fox News about this)
I'm sorry, I thought she was a real down-to-earth person .... just like us! You mean she shouldn't be shown to have wrinkles, blemishes, or *gasp* a hair on her upper lip?
Give me a freaking break. She claims they portrayed Obama on the cover in all his shining glory. But look! He looks good and real here - wrinkles and pockmarks and the whole shebang.
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/Picture_10-12.jpg
Here's the Newsweek cover in question:
http://coverawards.com/2008/10/08/news_newsweek_sarah_palin_cover_fire_4871/
Now, tell me - are any of you just reeling in horror of the shocking discovery that Sarah Palin ... has pores??? I mean, honestly. She looks fine and there is nothing wrong with that picture.
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I heard this was the original cover before the damn liberal MSM made them change it:
Night & Day
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What's Baby Bood?
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That's why it was rejected! 
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Night & Day
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Those lips...
those eyes.
Le sigh.
those eyes.
Le sigh.
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I agree there's nothing intrinsically nasty about a closeup, and you're right, Obama's complexion looks just as realistically middle-aged-imperfect in that profile photo you linked to. It does seem to me though like that cut-in-half effect (on the new Palin cover) may be at least partially intended to suggest the impression of a sneer.
Was this a posed photo? I know the earlier cover they had of her (the one where she's holding a shotgun) was actually a stock photo.
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I can see that cropping effect portraying more of a *wink*, which has become one of her trademarks.I think the more ridiculous part of the complaint about the cover is that the headline reads "She's One of the Folks." Wouldn't you think that an unretouched picture should naturally go along with that headline?
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^ one would think that..
ridiculous uproar over nothing.. jeez..
one would think that.. ridiculous uproar over nothing.. jeez..
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I'm going as a maverick this year for halloween:
I'm going to wear this and have a gun in one hand and all the newspapers in the other...
I'm going to wear this and have a gun in one hand and all the newspapers in the other...
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No, she didn't. The McCain campaign published a report the day before saying she'd done nothing wrong. But the official report states that she did violate the Alaska ethics code. It's extremely unlikely she's being impeached for this though (which is apparently a theoretical possibility).
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