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Old 09-23-2008, 11:31 PM   #166
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Hey, just over the mountian... I think I can see the end of the line for Canadians queued up for tonsillectomy surgery.

But where's the Stanley Cup, I don't seem to see that?
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Anyway, pose this question again after the VP debate. But, I like what I've heard so far and I agree with her positions on issues more than any of the other 3 candidates on the tickets.


but what are her positions? how has she articulated them? how does she respond when she's questioned on her positions? why isn't she allowed to defend her positions on the issues?

isn't this really the point here? she isn't being allowed to speak to us!

gosh, i'd love to give her the benefit of the doubt and have her answer questions and talk and speak to the press ... but they aren't allowing her to speak to the press!

hasn't it occurred to you that, despite the fact that the picked her, it's the McCain campaign itself that is telling us that she's an idiot? that she can't be trusted? that she's too inexperienced? that she's not qualified to answer any questions on behalf of the McCain campaign?

this is exactly what the McCain camp is telling us: "shit, we can't even trust her to answer questions."

so how on earth can you trust her to run the office of the VP, let alone assume the presidency, despite the fact that you might think she's hot, or cool, or interesting, or plucky, or generally agree with her broadly expressed conservative christianism (or the fact that you can't really agree with her on international issues because she's not allowed to talk about them).

they're telling you she can't be trusted. the McCain people. why aren't you listening to them?

do they think you're stupid?
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I just can't believe that they think these photo-ops at the UN will persuade people that she has foreign policy credentials. I could meet with and have my photo taken with every member of the Red Sox and that would qualify me to be their manager. Or maybe if I could see Fenway from my window..
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Bono meeting with Palin today??

Is there a thread about this somewhere?

Bono meeting with John McCain, Sarah Palin in New York this week
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I just can't believe that they think these photo-ops at the UN will persuade people that she has foreign policy credentials. I could meet with and have my photo taken with every member of the Red Sox and that would qualify me to be their manager. Or maybe if I could see Fenway from my window..


they think women are stupid.

this is the message here. the McCain campaign thinks that women are stupid, and they think the Gov. of Alaska can't be trusted to speak words that haven't been scripted for her.
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Looks like the McCain people were able to bury this story.



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Sarah Palin goes to Lansing

BY BRIAN DICKSON
DETROIT PRESS COLUMNIST

Jennifer Granholm's staff was at a loss for words when the woman in the upswept hairdo strode into the governor's office and plopped herself into the boss' leather seat.

"I guess you all know who I am," Sarah Palin said, "and since your fearless leader is busy impersonating me at that little debate school they set up for Senator Biden, I figured I'd play her for a few days and see if I couldn't bring a little Alaska sunshine to your mopey little state."

"Well," Granholm's chief operating officer, Dan Krichbaum, said, "we were just discussing our state's budget deficit. It looks like it's going to come in at about $300 million."

"So let's get cuttin'!" Palin whooped. "You got an airplane we can lose? I got rid of mine two years ago, and the national press is still talkin' about it."

"Actually, Michigan has sold five state airplanes since Gov. Granholm took office," Krichbaum said. "These days, we're looking at cutting things like school aid and revenue sharing for police protection."

Lean and mean

"Police protection?" Palin repeated, scowling over her Japanese titanium eyeglasses. "Isn't that a local budget item?"

"When Michigan cut property taxes a few years ago, it promised cities a share of sales tax receipts for expenses like law enforcement," Budget Director Bob Emerson explained. "Plus we have our state troopers to pay for."

"Well, Alaska cut property taxes and eliminated its income tax, and we have one of the most efficient state police forces in the country," Palin said proudly.

"But your state police director told me he has 80 trooper vacancies he can't fill because Alaska pays its troopers so little," Michigan State Police Director Peter Munoz said. "He says some Alaskan women who report being raped don't see a police officer for two days."

"Just because you live out in the country doesn't mean you shouldn't lock your doors," Palin snapped.

"How about education? Any pork there? Are you guys really wasting money on kids who aren't even old enough to be in kindergarten?"

"Every state funds pre-K education nowadays," state Superintendent Mike Flanagan sputtered.

"Not mine," Palin replied smugly. "And we've cut Alaska's high school dropout rate to 35%."

The earmark solution

"But if you're so hot for pre-K ed," she continued, "why don't you just get the federal government to pay for it? Those guys are swimming in dough. My state got more than $500 per person this year in federal earmarks alone."

"Well, Michigan's a little bit more, um, populous," Krichbaum said. "Our share was only $23 a person."

"Holy cow!" Palin cried. "You guys need some better lobbyists!"

"Our auto companies have pretty good lobbyists," Emerson said defensively. "It's the price of gas that's killing them."

"Really?" Palin asked. "In Alaska, when gas prices go up, we just get a bigger royalty check from the oil companies."

"We know we're too dependent on one industry," Krichbaum said.

"Oh, there's nothing wrong with that," Palin said. "You guys just picked the wrong industry."
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Palin's Big Oil infatuation
She is as much a product of the oil industry as the current president and his vice president.
By Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
September 24, 2008


I was water-skiing with my children in a light drizzle off Hyannis, Mass., last month when a sudden, fierce storm plunged us into a melee of towering waves, raking rain, painful hail and midday darkness broken by blinding flashes of lightning. As I hurried to get my children out of the water and back to the dock, I shouted over the roaring wind, "This is some kind of tornado."

The fog consolidated and a waterspout hundreds of feet high rose from the white ocean and darted across its surface, landing for a moment on a moored outboard to spin it like a top, moving toward a distant shore where it briefly became a sand funnel, and then diffusing into the atmosphere as it rained down bits of beach on the harbor. For 24 hours, a light show of violent storms illuminated the coastline, accompanied by booming thunder. My dog was so undone by the display that she kept us all awake with her terrified whining. That same day, two waterspouts appeared on Long Island Sound.

Those odd climatological phenomena led me to reflect on the rapidly changing weather patterns that are altering the way we live. Lightning storms and strikes have tripled just since the beginning of the decade on Cape Cod. In the 1960s, we rarely saw lightning or heard thunder on the Massachusetts coast. I associate electrical storms with McLean, Va., where I spent the school year when I was growing up.

In Virginia, the weather also has changed dramatically. Recently arrived residents in the northern suburbs, accustomed to today's anemic winters, might find it astonishing to learn that there were once ski runs on Ballantrae Hill in McLean, with a rope tow and local ski club. Snow is so scarce today that most Virginia children probably don't own a sled. But neighbors came to our home at Hickory Hill nearly every winter weekend to ride saucers and Flexible Flyers.

In those days, I recall my uncle, President Kennedy, standing erect as he rode a toboggan in his top coat, never faltering until he slid into the boxwood at the bottom of the hill. Once, my father, Atty. Gen. Robert Kennedy, brought a delegation of visiting Eskimos home from the Justice Department for lunch at our house. They spent the afternoon building a great igloo in the deep snow in our backyard. My brothers and sisters played in the structure for several weeks before it began to melt. On weekend afternoons, we commonly joined hundreds of Georgetown residents for ice skating on Washington's C&O Canal, which these days rarely freezes enough to safely skate.

Meanwhile, Exxon Mobil and its carbon cronies continue to pour money into think tanks whose purpose is to deceive the American public into believing that global warming is a fantasy. In 1998, these companies plotted to deceive American citizens about climate science. Their goal, according to a meeting memo, was to orchestrate information so that "recognition of uncertainties become part of the conventional wisdom" and that "those promoting the Kyoto treaty ... appear to be out of touch with reality."

Since that meeting, Exxon has funneled $23 million into the climate-denial industry, according to Greenpeace, which combs the company's annual report each year. Since 2006, Exxon has cut off some of the worst offenders, but 28 climate-denial groups will still get funding this year.

Corporate America's media toadies continue to amplify Exxon's deceptive message. The company can count on its hand puppets -- Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, John Stossel and Glenn Beck -- to shamelessly mouth skepticism about man-made climate change and give political cover to the oil industry's indentured servants on Capitol Hill. Oklahoma's Republican Sen. Jim Inhofe calls global warming "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American public."

Now John McCain has chosen as his running mate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a diligent student of Big Oil's crib sheets. She's something of a flat-earther who shares the current administration's contempt for science. Palin has expressed skepticism about evolution (which is like not believing in gravity), putting it on par with "creationism," which posits that the Earth was created 6,000 years ago.

She used to insist that human activities have nothing to do with climate change. "I'm not one ... who would attribute it to being man-made," she said in August. After she joined the GOP ticket, she magically reversed herself, to a point. "Man's activities certainly can be contributing to the issue of global warming," she told Charles Gibson two weeks ago.

Meanwhile, Alaska is melting before our eyes; entire villages erode as sea ice vanishes, glaciers are disappearing at a frightening clip, and "dancing forests" caused by disappearing permafrost astonish residents and tourists. Palin had to keep her head buried particularly deep in an oil well to ever have denied that humans are causing climate change. But, as Upton Sinclair pointed out, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

Palin's enthusiastic embrace of Big Oil's agenda (if not always Big Oil itself) has been the platform of her hasty rise in Alaskan politics. In that sense she is as much a product of the oil industry as the current president and his vice president. Palin, whose husband is a production operator for BP on Alaska's North Slope, has sued the federal government over its listing of the polar bear as an endangered species threatened by global warming, and she has fought to open the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and Alaska's coast to oil drilling.

When oil profits are at stake, her fantasy world appears to have no boundaries. About American's deadly oil dependence, she mused recently, "I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can't drill our way out of our problem."

I guess the only difference between Sarah Palin and Dick Cheney is ... lipstick.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is an environmental lawyer and a professor at Pace University Law School.
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Bono meeting with Palin today??

Is there a thread about this somewhere?

Bono meeting with John McCain, Sarah Palin in New York this week
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CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - McCain and Palin’s meeting with Bono canceled - Blogs from CNN.com

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NEW YORK (CNN) – John McCain and Sarah Palin’s meeting with Bono was canceled Wednesday due to scheduling reasons, according to the campaign.

Instead, McCain and Palin will chat with Bono by phone this afternoon about the ONE Campaign, the U2 front man’s initiative to raise awareness of AIDS and global poverty.

Unlike McCain and Palin’s other meetings with dignitaries in New York this week, most of which had been open to reporters and photographers, the Bono meeting was listed as closed to the press, at the rock star’s request.
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Maybe he was avoiding the possibility that McCain/Palin would possibly have used this meeting as a photo-op
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Maybe he was avoiding the possibility that McCain/Palin would possibly have used this meeting as a photo-op
Or maybe he was busy working on Solar No Line on the Horizon. I'm not sure if you heard, but 2009 will be U2's year.

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Bono meeting with Palin today??

Is there a thread about this somewhere?
Dear god, I hope not.
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