Is Palin failin' ? or OMG McCain wins with Palin !! pt. 2

[phanan]

Great posts Irvine

I can't not post this link. Can you say hypocrisy?
Sarah Palin Gender Card | The Daily Show | Comedy Central

That was fantastic.

 

[VintagePunk]

This is still a blog rumour, but it would be an interesting twist: Ben Smith's Blog: Palin raises $8 million — for Obama - Politico.com

I was reading through comments from a Palin speech watching entry last night on that Alaska blog I've been touting lately, and it seemed like every 2nd or 3rd post, people were saying they'd just been to Obama's website to contribute.

 

[U2isthebest]

You gotta hand it to the right-wing Christians. They're the best endorsements Obama can get. This is even better than when Stephen Baldwin said he'd leave the country if Obama wins.

 

[Diemen]

Great posts Irvine

I can't not post this link. Can you say hypocrisy?
Sarah Palin Gender Card | The Daily Show | Comedy Central

I thought yesterday was probably the best Daily Show since they had McCain on and grilled him on Iraq.

My problem is this: why isn't there anyone in the mainstream media calling people out on their hypocracy like this? Why are we only seeing this on a comedy show? Is the media so afraid of being labelled "biased" or "liberal" that they refuse to even report on basic inconsistencies now?

 

[Irvine511]

My problem is this: why isn't there anyone in the mainstream media calling people out on their hypocracy like this? Why are we only seeing this on a comedy show? Is the media so afraid of being labelled "biased" or "liberal" that they refuse to even report on basic inconsistencies now?

indeed, the cartoon network has turned into the news.

sorry.

i'll just show myself out.

 

[Diemen]

Heh. no need. I set it up pretty well.

 

[U2isthebest]

indeed, the cartoon network has turned into the news.

sorry.

i'll just show myself out.

Does love light up your Christmas tree, Irvine?

 

[Irvine511]

Does love light up your Christmas tree, Irvine?

it always has. but then i always blow a damn fuse.

 

[U2isthebest]

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[Diemen]

Now I have to fire up iTunes and listen to that song again.

 

[U2isthebest]

it always has. but then i always blow a damn fuse.

You make the baby Jesus

 

[namkcuR]

Where do we go?

 

[U2isthebest]

Where do we go?

Sorry, dude. You missed the moment. You're too late.

 

[namkcuR]

Sorry, dude. You missed the moment. You're too late.

Now I'm stuck in a moment and I can't get out of it.

 

[U2isthebest]

Now I'm stuck in a moment and I can't get out of it.

This could go all night.

 

[U2isthebest]

This could go all night.

I'll just save somebody the time and reply to myself.


That's what she said.

 

[Diemen]

Nicely done

 

[U2isthebest]

^I aim to please.

 

[A_Wanderer]

I agree for the most part, it's unfortunate, but true. But then again I couldn't respect anyone if they started playing to that demographic, it's part of the reason I have lost some respect for so many because they feel like they have to...

Is there anyway around it? Do we just have to weight for the national IQ to rise in order to have smarter government? In order to get real change?

I'm sure someone will label me elitist soon.

No, but you should be labelled naive, smarter politicians means that they will steal more from you with impunity.

 

[Diemen]

No, but you should be labelled naive, smarter politicians means that they will steal more from you with impunity.

It's interesting that you equate an increase in intelligence with an increase in malevolence.

 

[A_Wanderer]

Actually it's the propensity to get involved in government that yields that association.

 

[A_Wanderer]

Getting ready for a Hillary vs. Palin 2012 election?

Sarah Palin found some unlikely allies Wednesday as leading academics and even former top aides to Hillary Rodham Clinton endorsed the Republican charge that John McCain’s running mate has been subject to a sexist double standard by the news media and Democrats.

Georgetown University professor Deborah Tannen, who has written best-selling books on gender differences, said she agrees with complaints that Palin skeptics — including prominent voices in the news media — have crossed a line by speculating about whether the Alaska governor is neglecting her family in pursuit of national office.

“What we’re dealing with now, there’s nothing subtle about it,” said Tannen. “We’re dealing with the assumption that child-rearing is the job of women and not men. Is it sexist? Yes.”

“There’s no way those questions would be asked of a male candidate,” said Howard Wolfson a former top strategist for Clinton’s presidential campaign.

The sexism charge was hurled with new intensity Wednesday afternoon by McCain surrogates, all women, at a news conference just hours before made her acceptance speech here - a speech in which she said this about the media and Washington elite: "I'm not going to Washington to seek their good opinion - I'm going to Washington to serve the people of this country."

The tense encounter with reporters showed how McCain’s team has abandoned all pretense that this convention is about anything but Palin, her résumé and her wildly unexpected ascension to the GOP ticket.

A choice that was intended to shake up the race did so with more ferocity than McCain ever intended. The mother of five — with one pregnant teenage daughter and an infant son with Down syndrome — has joined a parade of personalities from Anita Hill to O.J. Simpson to Monica Lewinsky to become a cultural flash point.

Clinton aides: Palin treatment sexist - John F. Harris and Beth Frerking - Politico.com

 

[Diemen]

Cultural flash point? In the same breath as OJ Simpson and Monica Lewinsky? I'd say that's going a little overboard.

 

[deep]

Getting ready for a Hillary vs. Palin 2012 election?

Only if McCain wins..


and the PUMA's and bitter Appalachian, small town Democrats may want to see Hill have a shot in 2012

an Obama win rewards the sexism displayed against Hillary
they know she will not get a shot in 2016

 

[Diemen]

an Obama win rewards the sexism

It rewards a well formulated and fought campaign from Obama.

 

[namkcuR]

It rewards a well formulated and fought campaign from Obama.

 

[VintagePunk]

Getting ready for a Hillary vs. Palin 2012 election?Clinton aides: Palin treatment sexist - John F. Harris and Beth Frerking - Politico.com

I agree with that, for the most part. No one would ever ask if a male candidate with 5 children could be an effective VP, or even president, for that matter. On the other hand, she's (or the McCain team as a whole, rather) made her family the center of her campaign and appeal, unlike any other candidate that I can ever recall, so it seems a little disingenuous to criticize people for taking her family situation into account when considering how effective she can be, and how her time will be divided.

As well, even though Hillary aides have pointed this out and are called "allies," doesn't mean that they're allied with her politically. And to imply that all news outlets and all Democrats think that way is a vast overstatement.

 

[diamond]

nevermind.

 

[Diemen]

Random quote I found in regards to Palin's attitude towards community organizers:

"Mrs. Palin needs to be reminded that Jesus Christ was a community organizer and Pontius Pilate was a governor."

 

[Lila64]

I'll come back to page 14 later, but did anyone on the "right" side even watch the Daily Show clip? Funny how no one pro-McCain/Palin commented