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Old 03-16-2005, 01:46 PM   #31
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The truth...

Truth? That Jacko has devoted followers?
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Brother Diamond - I don't think Irvine is trying to convince anyone that Michael Jackson is innocent.
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Truth? That Jacko has devoted followers?


Sorry, but I didn't get the point of that post either...
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Obviously this whole Jackson trial is a result of Sony Corp's plot to destroy Michael Jackson.
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Jacko is self-destructive. He doesn't need help in that direction.
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Obviously this whole Jackson trial is a result of Sony Corp's plot to destroy Michael Jackson.
If that were the defense's best case they could come up with, Jacko would be screwed.

Just because one fan with a stupid haircut has an anti-Sony sign doesn't mean that Sony has anything to do with the case. Does Tom Sneddon work for Sony now?
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. I also don't think anyone would be stupid enough to file a false claim knowing they'd be the ones in jail if they were found out.

But, U2k, people do, all the time.
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And its not normal to have warning alarms in certain parts of your mansion unless youre not wanting to get caught at something -perhaps in compormising postions w/young boys.
I don't find that a particularly convincing argument, at all.

There are many messed-up celebrities (unfortunately) who are ridiculously paranoid about being stalked/burgled/attacked/murdered by deranged "fans".

Look at poor George Harrison - he was terrified after John Lennon was shot, and went to great lengths to make his house, and in particular, the bedrooms, highly secure. Didn't help him much, as he ended up stabbed by some psycho anyway, but that's not the point.

Robbie Williams - who is, I suspect, an absolute FRUITCAKE- had 24 hour bodyguards for ages. Now he doesn't. He has, however, put an extra security system in to protect himself from fellow nutcases, when he's asleep. He also sleeps with a makeshift blowtotrch, or sometimes a knife, under his pillow.

Oasis' Noel Gallagher had a security system put in which brought down metal bars over all the windows, if any of them were tampered with... he also had a panic room built next to his bedroom, to protect himself and his family in case of intruders. Someone did try and get in, which is when we found about the lengths the Monobrowed One had gone to for the sake of securing the bedrooms in his house.

Personally, I don't find it surprising that these areas of such people's houses have extra security measures in place: when a person is asleep they are at their most vulnerable. So the extra alarms/emergency devices help ease the paranoia, I would imagine.
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he's a fruitcake.

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for SallyCinnamon.

Great post.
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he's a fruitcake.

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The ruling of the Michael Jackson trial is not going to be determined by an opinion that MJ is a "fruitcake."
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Just because one fan with a stupid haircut has an anti-Sony sign doesn't mean that Sony has anything to do with the case.
I forgot to mention the glove he's wearing too. I suppose that makes him even more important.
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I forgot to mention the glove he's wearing too. I suppose that makes him even more important.
He is truly in the know...

sallycinnamon78 had some interesting info.
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Look Irvine the man is a fruitcake and if you want to be an apologist for him, and talk in legalese -that's your preogative, knock yourself out.

oh for god's sake.

i'm sorry if looking at evidence and holding to the idea that one is innocent until proven guilty is too difficult for you. i have no vested interest in whether or not he is guilty or innocent, i'm just interested in this case from a cultural perspective, and i don't think it's at all an induglence in your poorly choosen word "legalese" to point out that MJ owns the Beatles' catalogue. i'm not a lawyer, have never been to law schoo, though i did once proctor an LSAT. i have no idea what "legalese" is -- all i know about this trial i learned from CNN.

fruitcake? i'll ignore the homophobic root of that insult.

is MJ weird? yes. would i let my 11 year old sleep at his house? never in a million years. do i think he's guilty? i haven't a clue, and wouldn't pretend to know.

you, however, feel quite comfortable in your judgement. so pack up any notions of due process in the legal system and judge away! must feel good.
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He is truly in the know...
I just find him and his sign quite irrelevant to the case, that's all.

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sallycinnamon78 had some interesting info.
Yes, she did.
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