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Old 12-01-2006, 09:19 PM   #16
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Well, I live in fear most days of my life. But I'm not afraid of the poisonous snakes outside...I'm more afraid of the poisonous snakes within. My fears are internal though, so...I'm probably not talking about the same thing. I think the topic is being afraid of other people? In that case I'm not. I trust others moreso than I do myself.
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Old 12-01-2006, 11:22 PM   #17
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As for me I have both at times, more one than the other at times. Sometimes little of either. I don't believe that they are directly related, myself.
Her choices are a little narrow.
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Considering that the history of American civilization is based on nothing but inane fear, I'd say it's a bad thing 90% of the time.

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Perhaps, but, at the same time, that's not the primary motive for fear. Fear is profitable. It motivates people to watch television, because boring television is unwatched television and that's bad for ratings. It motivates people to buy things, because we don't want the Joneses to outdo us. It motivates people to invest, because we fear growing old and being poor. In other words, fear drives our entire economic system.

To march through life being unafraid would make you a subversive.
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Just to clarify, Melon quoted a line I was simultaneously editing out. Not because I didn't believe it, but it was all pompous sounding, lol.

I agree with your take on economic fear. I just think it is much broader than that.
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To march through life being unafraid would make you a subversive.
I've been called worse.
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Are you asking in general, or just in context with this quote?
"Always" tends to be a word of absolution...
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Faith can help you deal with fear, but faith should never be used to induce fear. You need both in healthy doses and in a healthy balance.
I agree with this. While I don't subscribe to "faith in the goodness of mankind", at least anywhere near the extent that Rosie does, it's perfectly rational to have faith in your government to protect you from those who mean great harm.
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Considering that the history of American civilization is based on nothing but inane fear, I'd say it's a bad thing 90% of the time.
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To march through life being unafraid would make you a subversive.
Or "Bush will draft your ass" propaganda could be another way to promote fear. It works both ways.
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Or "Bush will draft your ass" propaganda could be another way to promote fear. It works both ways.
Figures you'd try and politicize my response. I never said that Democrats were immune to using fear to further their aims. But you never asked about politics, now did you?

I guess I should have known better, though.
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Fear is protective mode - it keeps us on our toes. Proceed with caution if you like. I think it's a good thing until this mode is abused.

And faith isn't an option for me. I'm a rational person who like understand. There's no proof God ever existed, and if they did there is probably only one, rendering most religions a fraud. That doesn't mean I can't walk through life treating people with respect and recognising each as individuals to think what they like. Kind of agree with Bono In Melb.
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it's perfectly rational to have faith in your government to protect you from those who mean great harm.
Since I see the political writing on the wall here now...

I can guarantee that the minute that the White House goes "blue," you'll start pushing to curtail the government. That, after all, was the mantra of paleoconservatives everywhere during the Clinton administration. It's funny how thick the fog of amnesia is when the party in power is your own.

We're abdicating the responsibilities of democracy if we do not push checks and balances on our government, regardless of the party in power.
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We're abdicating the responsibilities of democracy if we do not push checks and balances on our government, regardless of the party in power.
This is what Republicans always forget: that the laws they apply to others will also apply to them someday. It never fails.
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I can guarantee that the minute that the White House goes "blue," you'll start pushing to curtail the government. That, after all, was the mantra of paleoconservatives everywhere during the Clinton administration.
It would depend on how responsible the next administration is. I have criticized the Bush administration rather openly when I am in disagreement. But go ahead and jump the gun and assume I'm a kneejerk bootlicker.
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