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Old 12-31-1969, 07:00 PM   #1
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Sorry to hear that Tiny Dancer, but were you meaning that Falwell and Co. were responsible?

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Old 02-26-2002, 11:44 PM   #2
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Is America more accepting of gay men than gay women?

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Hell no. I would say it is the opposite. All homophobia is fixated on male homosexuality it seems. Lesbians, however, get time on PPV porn for straight men...

All in all, pay close attention to homophobia from interest groups. 9.99999999999999999/10, their reasoning involves their disgust of gay men.

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All in all, pay close attention to homophobia from interest groups. 9.99999999999999999/10, their reasoning involves their disgust of gay men.

Define interest groups. And how am I going to get comfortable quantifying their homophobia.

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I got to thinking about this after seeing another episode of 'Dismissed' out of sheer boredom. It had a segment with 3 guys going on a date, and I've seen maybe half a dozen all guy dates on the show before but have never seen any with all girls. It just seemed to me like an issue which could be discussed from many different angles and have different answers. I mean this could be a gay/straight issue, a male/female issue, a American/Non issue.
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swallow, a lot of times i think these shows do stuff like that to make themselves look cool. like, "hey! we're not homophobes!! we looooooove gay men!!! in fact, let's focus an entire episode on them!!!"

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Just giving an opinion I've noticed in my time on this earth...

Girls can Kiss each other, Straight, lez, and no one will really chime out anything, Girls can dance with each other, and nasty old men will drool... And passing two girls holding hands in the park, I'll hardly look twice...

Now... Guys.. And here follows Rhetoric for effect.. People (myself included) become disgusted with two guys grinding on each other at a College Dance, One grabbing the other's ass.. Nasty old Men will turn, shake their heads, and just mumble Queer..
And, I'm not sure why.. But just looking at an unnecessary display of Male/Male affection, just leaves me with a sick feeling in my stomach knowing that when they go home, one of them is going to have a d#ck in his mouth (A Quote that I cannot be credited with Stating).. Sure.. It may not lead to that always, but Again.. Rhetoric for effect.

But Hey.. to each their own... As long as I don't see it, then I don't have a problem.. Good Ol Brandon from Survivor was a good representative of the society.

I think a lot of people get nauseated over it or what not is because the large majority of people think it is wrong.. Including myself.. Hence people are not going to really get queasy if they see a guy and a girl making out at a college dorm party.

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See...that's the problem. Straight society has no problem flaunting itself all over the fucking place, and the minute gays/lesbians attempt to do the same thing, it is seen as "flaunting." And I just love that automatic assumption that gay flirting always leads to sex. Nice.... If you are troubled with thoughts of dicks in mouths, the problem is with you for not being able to control your own thoughts.

Grr...I get so angry at times I wish I could break things...

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See...that's the problem. Straight society has no problem flaunting itself all over the fucking place, and the minute gays/lesbians attempt to do the same thing, it is seen as "flaunting." And I just love that automatic assumption that gay flirting always leads to sex. Nice.... If you are troubled with thoughts of dicks in mouths, the problem is with you for not being able to control your own thoughts.
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I wish I could break things...
You bring me one step closer to the edge...and I'm about to break.
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gay/lesbian can flirt in public and should be able to do so without giving off the idea that they are sexually active... please... I can't believe I just read that.

I have gay and lesbian friends and personally it gets to me when I see this kind of immediate reaction toward them, because it doesn't exactly seem fair. It's as if gays and lesbians are labelled as sexually perverted. (aren't we all?)

To the topic, I think America is more accepting of gay women, and that's why the tv series "dare" to tell the tale of gay men... It's a double standard, but it sure seems to ring true--two lesbians going at it seems to be more of a fantasy to men than a cringeworthy affair. I even see this where I work--once two girls came in, both attractive, and they were holding hands and one kissed the other's cheek. After they had been waited on there was a series of "whoo did you see that? awesome!" out of the guys I work with.
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Isn't Whortense Melon, and vice versa?

In which case, what's the point giving yourself a thumbs up? It seems unnecessary and narcissistic.

ANYWAY, I actually have a reasonable theory about why lesbian porn (and therefore lesbianism) is more accepted by heterosexual men:

When watching porn, men want to A) see naked women and B) become aroused at the sight of naked women. With heterosexual porn, one runs the risk of accidentally becoming aroused by the male physique, which is definitely contrary to the intended purpose. With lesbian porn, no such risk; a male can look without fear of getting horny from seeing another male's rear.
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It seems unnecessary and narcissistic.
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