Iraq conflict has killed a million Iraqis: survey - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-30-2008, 10:56 PM   #1
Infinity's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,188
Local Time: 09:48 AM
Iraq conflict has killed a million Iraqis: survey

LONDON (Reuters) - More than one million Iraqis have died as a result of the conflict in their country since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, according to research conducted by one of Britain's leading polling groups.

The survey, conducted by Opinion Research Business (ORB) with 2,414 adults in face-to-face interviews, found that 20 percent of people had had at least one death in their household as a result of the conflict, rather than natural causes.

The last complete census in Iraq conducted in 1997 found 4.05 million households in the country, a figure ORB used to calculate that approximately 1.03 million people had died as a result of the war, the researchers found.

The margin of error in the survey, conducted in August and September 2007, was 1.7 percent, giving a range of deaths of 946,258 to 1.12 million.

ORB originally found that 1.2 million people had died, but decided to go back and conduct more research in rural areas to make the survey as comprehensive as possible and then came up with the revised figure.

The research covered 15 of Iraq's 18 provinces. Those that not covered included two of Iraq's more volatile regions -- Kerbala and Anbar -- and the northern province of Arbil, where local authorities refused them a permit to work.

Estimates of deaths in Iraq have been highly controversial in the past.

Medical journal The Lancet published a peer-reviewed report in 2004 stating that there had been 100,000 more deaths than would normally be expected since the March 2003 invasion, kicking off a storm of protest.

The widely watched Web site Iraq Body Count currently estimates that between 80,699 and 88,126 people have died in the conflict, although its methodology and figures have also been questioned by U.S. authorities and others.

ORB, a non-government-funded group founded in 1994, conducts research for the private, public and voluntary sectors.

The director of the group, Allan Hyde, said it had no objective other than to record as accurately as possible the number of deaths among the Iraqi population as a result of the invasion and ensuing conflict.

Infinity is offline  
Old 01-30-2008, 11:05 PM   #2
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,943
Local Time: 04:48 PM
Funny how these groups claim to be objective, but they never appear to attempt to do the same thing in Afghanistan.

According to the US military, who have the largest number of personal on the ground, the greatest access to intelligence, such figures are grossly inaccurate.

Strongbow is offline  
Old 01-30-2008, 11:16 PM   #3
Blue Crack Supplier
BVS's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 38,061
Local Time: 11:48 AM
I don't entirely trust either group. They both have agendas.

If you don't think the military has an agenda to make it's "collateral damage" seem as small as it could be then you are high...
BVS is online now  
Old 01-30-2008, 11:52 PM   #4
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: London/Sydney
Posts: 6,608
Local Time: 05:48 PM
I'd take the Lancet/BodyCount figure, and then get a US Military figure, and then I'd believe that it is actually something about halfway in between the two.

Sting, do you actually know what kind of figure the military is claiming?
Earnie Shavers is offline  
Old 01-30-2008, 11:59 PM   #5
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The American Resistance
Posts: 4,754
Local Time: 10:48 AM
Roughly 12 million Americans have died "since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003."

I blame Bush.
INDY500 is offline  
Old 01-31-2008, 12:08 AM   #6
Infinity's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,188
Local Time: 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Strongbow
Funny how these groups claim to be objective, but they never appear to attempt to do the same thing in Afghanistan.
Why is that funny? Just because they do it for Iraq and not Afghanistan, that proves that they are biased or wrong?
Infinity is offline  
Old 01-31-2008, 07:41 AM   #7
love, blood, life
Zoomerang96's Avatar
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: canada
Posts: 13,288
Local Time: 11:48 AM
you're all forgetting the most important thing, guys.

bush himself said it's better to fight the war "there" than "here".

this is freedom, guys.

Zoomerang96 is offline  

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright ©