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Old 05-26-2007, 02:34 PM   #1
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Iraq chaos predicted

Here's an article from the Washington Post about predictions of chaos in Iraq prior to the invasion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...referrer=email
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Re: Iraq chaos predicted

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Here's an article from the Washington Post about predictions of chaos in Iraq prior to the invasion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...referrer=email

Both the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan had analysis done that obviously predicted difficult post-invasion periods, but that does not change the necessity of removing the Taliban regime and Saddam's regime from power.
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But what does it say about the (lack of) post invasion planning? I think that's the point of this thread, ie they knew it was coming, so why were they not, at the very least, ready for it (just to ignore any charges of fueling it for the moment)?
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But what does it say about the (lack of) post invasion planning? I think that's the point of this thread, ie they knew it was coming, so why were they not, at the very least, ready for it (just to ignore any charges of fueling it for the moment)?
They knew it "could" be coming based on the intelligence. Many of the chaos scenarios predicted for both Afghanistan and Iraq never came about. Its true that the administration did make several mistakes in the choices it made early on for the post-invasion, and occupation phase in Iraq. But even the best implemented plan would involve serious difficult challenges in rebuilding a country like Iraq as well as fighting off an insurgency. Despite the mistakes made in planning in 2002 and 2003, the effort overall has been on the right track for some time now, and will eventually succeed if it is given enough time and resources. Provided the United States does not pre-maturely withdraw from Iraq, it will succeed in its efforts to rebuild and stabilize the country.
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This oughta be a good one...
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Old 05-28-2007, 05:49 PM   #7
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Provided the United States does not pre-maturely withdraw from Iraq, it will succeed in its efforts to rebuild and stabilize the country.
Yeah? Seems like this soldier thinks you're wrong, wrong, wrong.

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But in Safstrom's view, the American presence is futile. "If we stayed here for 5, even 10 more years, the day we leave here these guys will go crazy," he said. "It would go straight into a civil war. That's how it feels, like we're putting a Band-Aid on this country until we leave here."
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Of course, I knew it all along. You destroy a country and topple it's government and all hell breaks loose. Ya think?
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It's also called anarchy.
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Perfect...
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hindsight is always 20/20
perhaps they should be required to use some sort of "projected" hindsight?

since the arguments "in favor" were made by "talking out of their asses."
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