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Old 01-03-2008, 09:46 PM   #106
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I'm more cautious in predicting NH, as I live here and know how things have gone in the past. We are a most unpredictable bunch.

I seem to recall the same thing happening back in 1992 with another Clinton. And while I'm not comparing her to her husband at all, I'm not ruling her out, either.
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I'd like to see demographic breakdown by age and gender - think I saw Obama does better with those under 30.
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I'd like to see demographic breakdown by age and gender - think I saw Obama does better with those under 30.
Yeah, Clinton was supposedly a favorite of those 65 and older.
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Yeah, Clinton was supposedly a favorite of those 65 and older.
I would credit that to her healthcare plan. I actually am a supporter of it too, but I don't think she has the ability to help push this nation in a new direction. She's definitely my second choice, but Obama's plans and vision overall have the ability to lead this country back to its' ideals.
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Obama's plans and vision overall have the ability to lead this country back to its' ideals.
Right on.
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Some demographics here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21225980/

Men went for Obama over Clinton 35-23%, Female 35-30%.
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and Iowa is 95% white. and they voted for a black man.

amazing.
Richardson is white, but claims brown

and Kucinich is white

remove their people that seconded over to Obama and most likely Obama would be in 3rd

No 2nd choices in general election

ask Gore about 2000 Nader votes
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Interesting. Good find, ntalwar.
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Thanks for the demographic breakdown! It's really interesting to look at.
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I would credit that to her healthcare plan. I actually am a supporter of it too, but I don't think she has the ability to help push this nation in a new direction. She's definitely my second choice, but Obama's plans and vision overall have the ability to lead this country back to its' ideals.
I think that's part of it, but I wonder how much color of skin has to do with it in this demographic?
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I think Obama will take NH. They are close there, and the bounce will be enough. If he does so, I think you can pretty much stick a fork in Hillary.

McCain is praying for Hillary. Obama beats all of McCain, Romney and Giuliani in the national polls.
There has not been much polling on Obama vs. McCain, but the latest poll by Fox News has McCain up by 4 points over Obama. In fact, all the latest polls matching McCain against ANY of the Democrats have McCain winning. But, will see how Iowa tonight and New Hampshire next week impact things.
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I think that's part of it, but I wonder how much color of skin has to do with it in this demographic?

That is a good point. I posted that before I looked at ntalwar's post of the demographic breakdown. According to that Obama's support goes down with each older age group.
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and as for the GOP winner
what does it mean?

GOP Iowa caucus voters pick some real loonies - see 1988
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McCain will probably get all of grandpa Fred's voters too, once he drops out (tomorrow? Saturday?).
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