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Old 01-03-2008, 10:50 PM   #181
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What are you talking about? Numbers are up for the GOP


and were crushed by the Democrat numbers in a state that Bush won in 2004. twice as many people turned out for the Dems.

it's clear that the independents -- the only way a McCain candidacy would win -- prefer the D's to the R's.

again, this is the party that Bush/Rove has given you.
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Yay!!! We're watching CNN now!
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:50 PM   #183
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way to go Bush! everything you touch turns to shit.
This is true. I had a night out with one of my great Republican friends and we talked about how Bush would spend his retirement years. We both pictured him living on his ranch trying to write a book but never finishing and just dwindeling down to the worst president in recent history...
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This is true. I had a night out with one of my great Republican friends and we talked about how Bush would spend his retirement years. We both pictured him living on his ranch trying to write a book but never finishing and just dwindeling down to the worst president in recent history...
Damn, being an editor for Bush's manuscript would have to be declared a form of torture.
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The turnouts:

Projections showed a turnout of 220,588 for Democrats, compared to 124,000 who participated in 2004. Most projections had estimated turnout would be about 150,000.

Turnout was also up on the Republican side, where projections showed about 114,000 people taking part.

The last contested Republican caucuses in 2000 drew 87,666 in caucuses won by then-Gov. George W. Bush.


So 335,000

out of a possible 2,000,000

is 16.5%

that is better than 10.5 %
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We both pictured him living on his ranch trying to write a book
Like, with words and everything?
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So, is it basically a given that Hunter, Gravel, Kucinich, Richardson and Biden all drop out in a day or two?
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Like, with words and everything?
That was pretty much my response...

I figured there would be some pop-ups with Jesus and bombs and such...
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I believe the day of the caucus you can switch parties to support a candidate


I will only be able to vote in the GOP primary on Feb 5 here in CA

if I could choose, I might prefer to vote in the Dem primary

I expect to vote for the Dem candidate in Nov.



Iowa is a weird lot

with second choices counting and all

also that state does reflect many parts of the country

I think corn to ethanol is not necessarily good policy
let any candidate say that and
see what Iowa hands them
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So 335,000

out of a possible 2,000,000

is 16.5%

that is better than 10.5 %
Probably not bad for an evening event, as some have families and night jobs.
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The best part of all of this is that no matter what happens in November, Bush will be gone, gone, gone.
Actually he will still be office until January 20, 2009. At which time his successor will become President and will not be pursuing many of the radical changes from the Bush administration so many here are hoping for.
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I expect between Nov 2008 and Jan 20, 2009

we will see some pretty freaky shit fly out of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave

W unleashed


Or should I say Cheney unleashed
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So 335,000

out of a possible 2,000,000

is 16.5%

that is better than 10.5 %


it does speak to how many are alienated by the political process, but at least this 16.5% was paying attention and probably made informed choices.
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Finally, Obama speaks!
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Obama's playing "City of Blinding Lights."

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