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BonoVoxSupastar said:
I like the idea of him having to go to the games and promote the team and do features about them, that's much better than firing him.
He would lose his audience.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
I like the idea of him having to go to the games and promote the team and do features about them, that's much better than firing him.
He's not a 'professor of African American Studies,' he's an activist from Raleigh who'd taught one section of an introductory African Studies course on an adjunct (temp) basis at NCSU a couple times prior to that incident (and hasn't since, and doubtless won't again).Justin24 said:Now a professor in African American Studies Mr. Kamau Kambon spoke out against congress and white people in General, calling for their extermination on TV where Millions of people watch.
deep said:
He would lose his audience.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Really?
It depends on how long he has to do this and how extensive, I will admit I didn't read how much of this "community service" he has to do...
I would like to see Imus attend every home game for the Rutgers women's basketball team next season. In addition, he should commit time each week on his syndicated radio show featuring the players, what life is like on the Rutgers campus, their challenges as well as their successes as student athletes.
In short, he should profile their lives on and off the court. His legion of devoted listeners should be given of heavy dose of Rutgers women's basketball next season..
Justin24 said:
Can we just forget about the color barrier for once?
Irvine511 said:
do you really think these women were paralyzed with hurt? do you really think they cried themselves to sleep at night? do you really think they looked at themselves in the mirror the next day and thought, "gosh, maybe i really am a ho"? do you really think they looke at themsleves in the mirror the next day and thought, "oh no, America thinks i'm a ho."
because i don't.
i'm not excusing the comments. i'm just saying that the comments themselves probably made little or no difference in the lives of these women, but the reaction to the comments certainly has.
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Headache in a Suitcase said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow3P2t2OAgI
this is a good man. a good man who made a mistake. and when he comes back, i will listen. [/QUOTE
I'm curious. You, and others, have described Imus as "a good man" who "made a mistake" or who said bad things. How would you define a "bad" man? How many "mistakes" or "bad things" would someone have to do or say to be viewed as "bad"? Or, how many "good" things would someone have to do to have their "bad" statements and deeds viewed as "mistakes" instead of as reflections of their character? Note that I'm not making a statement one way or another about Imus's "goodness" or "badness". I'm interested in the distinctions that some have made between an individual's character and his/her behavior -- and how this has informed people's reactions to Imus's statements.
blueyedpoet said:I do not understand why bringing up some other racist comments excuse this racist episode. Prejudice exists everywhere and in everyone. No one is ever really prejudice free - but we all ought to constantly examine our lives and our hearts to try and purge ourselves of prejudice.
I do find it tragically ironic though that a guy who has made a living off of saying horribly shocking things gets nailed for being a racist, but the Savages and Limbaugh's get away with far worse. Their racist diatribes don't even hide behind the mask of humor.
DILETTANTE said:
Yeah, I do.
Until very very recently (i.e. within my lifetime ) Black women and girls were portrayed in the media, in literature, and in many non-Black people's minds as maids/Mammy's or as whores. Images of Black females as teachers, as mothers, as students, as achievers, as the cute kid on the cereal box, or even as a Disney princess were few and far between. These stereotypes persist. And it's this persistence that may make Imus's comments particularly painful for these women .
Headache in a Suitcase said:
this is a good man. a good man who made a mistake. and when he comes back, i will listen.
Irvine511 said:
but we do not all agree about the severity of the harm done nor the over-the-top media circus that has followed (and which took several days to build).
i always go after the Right and their addiction to what Phillip Roth calls "the ecstacy of sanctimony." we're all prone to it.
really, what are we accomplishing by beating Imus up? what are we learning? what's the value in this other than getting to extend a finger at Imus and screaming "sexist! racist!" and then rushing over to protect a group of delicate, sensitive women who have somehow suffered grevious harm from three words?
Justin24 said:Here is an observation I have noticed. Anyone of any color(except white) can say anything about pretty much anyone and you will hardly hear the word bigot, racist, anti-semite. A caucasian says it and boom, The NAACP, La Raza, and more will come at you. So why no equality. You all keep saying how racist words should be long forgotten but you laugh when it's being used on stage, so I guess that means those words are acceptable because their being used in a funny way???
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Show me a comparable example. Please!!! You are comparing apples to oranges!
Justin24 said:
For Fucks sake. I showed you a video of a person as bad or worse as Imus and it gets shot down, why because he does not have celebrity status. Thats what I am getting here from all of this.
ntalwar said:The women themselves have said they were hurt by the comments. See anitram's post, as well as numerous news articles and the news conference transcript. BTW, at the news conference the coach did most of the speaking and only two players made statements. The other players merely stated their name, class, and hometowns.
Is silence the answer to Imus' comments? Perhaps it is for some, but people have the freedom to express their opinions on the matter, just as Imus did. Perhaps what can be accomplished is a dialogue and the creation of a deterrent to prevent similar incidents in the future.
BonoVoxSupastar said:I give up Justin, you don't get it. You're bitching about a tree falling in a forest when no one is around.
europop2005 said:i really don't condone what Imus said on air...but it does point out a cruel double standard
Imus can go out and make a passing (but ultimately cruel) remark about a womens basketball team and get suspended for 2 weeks
Rosie O'Donnell can go out and spread conspiracy theories, swear that the government killed its own people, accuse British sailors of basically kidnapping themselves, and still stay on the air week after week
hmmm
europop2005 said:Rosie O'Donnell can go out and spread conspiracy theories, swear that the government killed its own people, accuse British sailors of basically kidnapping themselves, and still stay on the air week after week
martha said:
Those who have been called "jigaboos" and "nappy-headed" when the race was enslaved and lynched.
Those are poisonous words. They have no place in the context in which they were used.