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Old 04-10-2007, 07:30 PM   #166
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keep this in mind about the press conference
they have been at the center of a media circus
there is something to be said for asserting yourself, taking control of a situation
instead of being the victim and having to react to it.
I agree-and I forgot what they said about being hounded by the media, they said it really disrupted their Easter holiday with their families.

I agree with anitram, no one else is the best judge of how they felt or should feel about the remarks-all that truly matters is how they feel. I think their achievements are part of the issue-and they do as well. The timing of it is important in that regard too- it was the day after (or thereabouts as far as I understand) they reached the pinnacle athletically. The fact that no one believes they are nappy headed hos (and I would dispute that, there are people in the world who would believe that or something similar) is irrelevant to how the young women feel. Personally if I was a young woman on that team or any such team and someone like Imus called me a ho, let alone nappy headed, I would feel belittled. I have been called a ho (whore to be exact) more than once and have felt that way. It's a slur that some people like to use when they have nothing else to say, and it's a weapon in that way. No matter who says such a word to me, I feel belittled. It hurts the most if it's someone you care about, but it hurts at the time and in the future. The fact that he said it on a radio show and not to their faces really doesn't make much difference-and it must be worse because it's on a national stage.
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Thats right bow to me.

I just can't comprehend some peoples thinking here.
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I just can't comprehend some peoples thinking here.
What do you not get?
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No I do understand what you are saying. But let's just say I decided to say all black people are nappy headed jiggaboo when a reporter comes up to me and asks for my opinion. I can guarantee you Sharpton would be at my door step in a second.

The speaker in that Cspan Video was televised nationally, yet there was no outcry?
The guy in the video has some serious issues with insanity, and that isn't cured by giving him more attention than he deserves.
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What do you not get?
I have explained it many times and you have read it. This shit is totaly biased. First off I though we were a nation that is supposed to set an example. We are supposed to be people of tollerence a people who wants to get rid of bigotry,racism, homosexual hate remarks.

I do not agree with what Imus said. But look at how the media and the different group pounce him for his remarks. Yes he is a public figure and he should know better and he made a mistake. Now a professor in African American Studies Mr. Kamau Kambon spoke out against congress and white people in General, calling for their extermination on TV where Millions of people watch.

But what I see here is let's hang Imus, but oh the not so important racist Kamau Kambon oh let's just slide that under the rug. Why do we slide it under the rug, is it because the white man is the devil and has to be looked upon differently from other people of color?

Can we just forget about the color barrier for once?
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The guy in the video has some serious issues with insanity, and that isn't cured by giving him more attention than he deserves.
So Mr. Vega. I know you don't live in the US, but can you tell me why the media and black leaders ignored this man?

Even though he may a nobody, words and ideas can carry on.
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But what I see here is let's hang Imus, but oh the not so important racist Kamau Kambon oh let's just slide that under the rug. Why do we slide it under the rug, is it because the white man is the devil and has to be looked upon differently from other people of color?

See now you are being ridiculous and YOU are now playing the race card.

Show me someone of the same stature and you will have a point, but right now you are comparing a forest to a plant.
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We are supposed to be people of tollerence a people who wants to get rid of bigotry,racism, homosexual hate remarks.

But look at how the media and the different group pounce him for his remarks.

Can we just forget about the color barrier for once?
Justin ...

If we want to get rid of the remarks, why should the media not pounce on him for his remarks?

Your post is contradictory. You want the remarks to go away but criticize the media for jumping on the remarks?

Weren't you just complaining about the media not jumping on other people?
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See now you are being ridiculous and YOU are now playing the race card.

Show me someone of the same stature and you will have a point, but right now you are comparing a forest to a plant.


Now I know how you feel sometimes.

I am not being fucking ridiculous, but this is so true of what I said, but as usual it's not a valid view or point.
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I am not being fucking ridiculous,
So it's ok to compare a forest to a plant?

How many times do white people say something and it goes unnoticed by the media?

Come on Justin!!!
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So Mr. Vega. I know you don't live in the US, but can you tell me why the media and black leaders ignored this man?

Even though he may a nobody, words and ideas can carry on.
Because you live in the country of free market economy, where the media is interested in making a buck.

The media is selective.

What should they do about it? They also don't make a big issue out of every white man talking shit. Only if it sells.

What this man said is way more ridiculous, but do you want to act as a soundboard by giving him more attention?

Cases are different, reactions are different and these things have a very own dynamic.
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I like the idea of him having to go to the games and promote the team and do features about them, that's much better than firing him.



"The wise and all-knowing council that I meet every morning at Peet's Coffee strongly suggested that I not waste my time writing about the Don Imus fiasco. It is one of those issues where reasonable people need not spend many hours musing over whether Imus' statement crossed the line.

After all, in the 21st century he called the Rutgers University women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos." Case closed.
But with all due respect to my omniscient council this story is too salacious to pass up.

The Imus affair reminds us of the dangers when one mixes privilege, arrogance, and ignorance--it can produce social toxins, as in this case, racism and misogyny. He has over the years offered up inflammatory, politically incorrect statements to titillate his many listeners.

I disagree with those who naïvely hold out that the incident could be the genesis of ongoing dialogue about race, class, and gender. If the aftermath of Katrina did not birth such talks why would the Imus affair be any different?

Beyond the statement itself, Imus may have demonstrated his insensitivity more by failing to comprehend the gravity of his reprehensible remarks by taking two days to apologize.

He could afford to be quite cavalier with the humanity of the women in question without having to pay any price--or so the thought. He saw them as nobodies, certainly beneath his perceived rank in life, definitely posing no threat to his syndicated shock-jock talk show.

I also found a bit of comedic irony in that Imus apologized on Al Sharpton's radio show. Imus' apology, be it forced, unrepentant, or inauthentic still trumps Sharpton who has yet, to my knowledge, publicly apologized for the 1987 media circus known as the Tawana Brawley affair.

What should happen to Imus going forward? Should the two-week suspension he received suffice? Or should he be fired? Two weeks hardly seems sufficient for one who has made a living with periodic insults that clearly cross the lines of decency.

But Imus is unique in that he attempts to walk the unstructured line between serious journalism and shock-jock. He uses well-known media figures of the chattering class to grant him legitimacy as he engages in all of the trappings of AM shock-jock talk radio.

I find the fate of many shock jocks to be reminiscent of drug dealers. Just as the fate dealers often ends in prison or violent death, the shock jock, always in competition to outdo self, will ultimately cross the line of what is acceptable once too often.

But what is to be gained by firing Imus? I understand the visceral cries for his dismissal, but I fear this would only serve as a short-term measure that would soon fade from our collective consciousness.

Practically speaking, someone would hire him and he would no doubt add martyrdom to his list of accomplishments. The final outcome needs to be lasting--something that Imus, his followers, and other shock-jocks would remember.

I would like to see Imus attend every home game for the Rutgers women's basketball team next season. In addition, he should commit time each week on his syndicated radio show featuring the players, what life is like on the Rutgers campus, their challenges as well as their successes as student athletes.

In short, he should profile their lives on and off the court. His legion of devoted listeners should be given of heavy dose of Rutgers women's basketball next season.

Why this as opposed to firing Imus?

Among his many infractions was the dehumanization of a group of young women who just completed an improbable season that left them one victory short of a collegiate the national championship. Blinded by his own arrogance he saw these young ladies as defenseless pawns that could easily be served up on a platter of banter to his early morning listeners.

Furthermore, it requires more time to restore someone's humanity than it does to carelessly tear it down. Given that Imus has spent years destroying his own humanity at the expense of others a simple apology, a two-week suspension, or dismissal may not do the trick."

Byron Williams is an Oakland pastor and syndicated columnist.
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I like the idea of him having to go to the games and promote the team and do features about them, that's much better than firing him.



I like it as well...
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Cases are different, reactions are different and these things have a very own dynamic.
Exactly, Justin, you can't judge each case by the words spoken alone, which is what you are trying to do.
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Staples, Bigelow Tea Halt Advertising on Imus's Show (Update2)

By Heather Burke and Mary Jane Credeur

April 10 (Bloomberg) -- Staples Inc. and Bigelow Tea stopped advertising on radio host Don Imus's morning show to protest his racially charged remarks about the Rutgers University women's basketball team.

Staples, the world's largest office-products retailer, ran its last ad on Imus's MSNBC simulcast yesterday, spokesman Paul Capelli said. Bigelow Tea, the closely held maker of specialty teas, suspended its advertising and future sponsorship is ``in jeopardy,'' said Cindi Bigelow, co-president of the company.

``Our company does not condone or support in any way the unacceptable comments made by Imus,'' Bigelow said in an e-mailed statement. ``We are deeply saddened by Imus' remarks.''

The decision by advertisers to withdraw advertising may step up pressure on CBS Radio and MSNBC, which air the show.
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