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Old 08-10-2006, 04:50 PM   #106
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First of all, that comment was not general ... it was specific to Irvine. And I know Irvine has not found Christ, because you can tell when someone has. A change occurs in their life.


wow.

you're an embarassment to your fellow Christians.
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Regardless of who it was specific to, it was still arrogant.

Well lets see if you can tell. Have I?
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And the reason why I started participating in these discussions, is to tell everyone of the truth. And the radical thing about it is that now that you have all heard the truth, you are held accountable for the truth. You will make a choice about these matters for yourself, and you will be held accountable for your choice.

It isn't about judging anyone. God will be the high Judge. My job is to inform the world of His message ... that Jesus' blood is the only way to salvation. And everyone who hears this message will choose for themselves.
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And I know Irvine has not found Christ, because you can tell when someone has. A change occurs in their life.
Not that I even want to get involved in this discussion, but what exactly do you mean by that?

I'll second that question, have I?
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Its not about me being able to "tell" if someone has. You tell me ... have you accepted Jesus' death on the cross for your substitute? Do you believe He died for your sins?
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I thought it was? You could tell that Irvine hasn't, right?
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Its not about me being able to "tell" if someone has. You tell me ... have you accepted Jesus' death on the cross for your substitute? Do you believe He died for your sins?
What? You stated that Irvine hasn't, so clearly you CAN tell. Are you backing away from that now? Why don't you say exactly what you meant by it so we can have all the cards on the table.
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And the reason why I started participating in these discussions, is to tell everyone of the truth.
Yet you haven't.

You've avoided questions, passed judgement, and contradicted yourself.

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Think about this logically ... do you think someone who believes what I believe, would be speaking in extreme sarcasm towards me about our shared beliefs? You tell me. I made a statement that was my opinion on whether or not Irvine believes in Jesus. Obviously only God can truly know someone's heart.
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First of all, that comment was not general ... it was specific to Irvine. And I know Irvine has not found Christ, because you can tell when someone has. A change occurs in their life.
And what do you know about Irvine's life?

I think that I'll save you the trouble: I haven't and I have no intention to.

I'll go find that cooking sherry now. Anyone wants to join me?
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Think about this logically ... do you think someone who believes what I believe, would be speaking in extreme sarcasm towards me about our shared beliefs? You tell me. I made a statement that was my opinion on whether or not Irvine believes in Jesus. Obviously only God can truly know someone's heart.
I don't remember sarcasm as a sin. Maybe the sarcasm was there to force you to really challenge your beliefs and really think about it what you're saying.

You still have stated your faith as absolute truth.
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And the reason why I started participating in these discussions, is to tell everyone of the truth. And the radical thing about it is that now that you have all heard the truth, you are held accountable for the truth. You will make a choice about these matters for yourself, and you will be held accountable for your choice.

It isn't about judging anyone. God will be the high Judge. My job is to inform the world of His message ... that Jesus' blood is the only way to salvation. And everyone who hears this message will choose for themselves.

naked evangalism in FYM isn't going to go over terribly well.

most people in here have sharp, critical minds that aren't terribly prone to mindless, pious preaching and sanctimony wrapped up in gauzy "oh, dear me, i'm just preaching the truth" innocence.

what crap.

you are completely judging the people in here, and they are going to judge you right back.

and you wonder why people run screaming when evangelicals come running into the room.
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BonoV, did I ever say that sarcasm is a sin? No. Let's just ask him ... Irvine, have you accepted Jesus as the world's Saviour?
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Think about this logically ... do you think someone who believes what I believe, would be speaking in extreme sarcasm towards me about our shared beliefs? You tell me. I made a statement that was my opinion on whether or not Irvine believes in Jesus. Obviously only God can truly know someone's heart.
Well I am a Catholic and I've stated it on here. I read sarcasm and worse about my religion, Christianity in general, etc. in FYM on a regular basis. Yet I refrain from making any judgments about the people who post it or any others here as far as what is in their hearts and what they believe.

Maybe your statements of your opinions are coming across as judgmental statements of fact.
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I'll go find that cooking sherry now. Anyone wants to join me?

got any vodka?
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