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Old 08-10-2006, 04:21 PM   #91
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What's a hare? A rabbit?
How long is a hair (hare)
on a rabbit?
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Probably depends on the breed ...
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No, you asked me what is the point of God's grace ... and I answered by saying it is everything. Without God's grace, we would have no hope.
I asked you what the point of God's grace is, if your motive is not to gain access to heaven, but to please God.

Once again your belief that we would have no hope, is just that, a belief, not fact.
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Let's put it this way ... without God's grace, no one could go to heaven. And if no one could go to heaven, then no one would have hope. Grace is a gift from God, to us.
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How long is a hair (hare)
on a rabbit?
this is best when asked verbally

the answer is:

-you snap your fingers and say

"about that long"
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But I thought getting into heaven wasn't your motive?
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No, not yet, but if the thread continues like this I'll seriously consider it. Hmm, I wonder where I put the cooking sherry.
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Im sorry ... we keep misunderstanding each other ... and it because this topic is so complex. Its okay though.

Obviously everyone wants to go to heaven, but there are many different motives for going. Some want heaven just so they don't have to go to hell. Others have a more selfless reason.

I do want to go to heaven, but I want to go to be with Jesus. Jesus died in my place. He blesses me so much. The least I can do is believe in Him and live a life that pleases Him.

Now, living a good life doesn't save a person. And that is what I meant. I mean we cant work our way into heaven with good deeds. We can only get there through Jesus' blood.
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Let's put it this way ... without God's grace, no one could go to heaven. And if no one could go to heaven, then no one would have hope. Grace is a gift from God, to us.


you know, you're not really interested in a discussion, are you.

you just want to pretend to have a discussion, and then use other posts as springboards to launch off into various statements about just how wonderful and beautiful and perfect your faith and your God is and how you've got it figured out and everyone who doesn't share your beliefs are doomed, but that's okay, you see, because you love the poor dears anyway.

thank goodness you found Christ! what else would you do with your spare time?
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If I didn't find Christ, I'd probably be just like you. Not in a bad way or anything ... its just that with Christ, I have an eternal perspective on life. I don't just live for the moment, but I live for eternity.
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Irvine's right you aren't interested in a discussion.
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If I didn't find Christ, I'd probably be just like you. Not in a bad way or anything ... its just that with Christ, I have an eternal perspective on life. I don't just live for the moment, but I live for eternity.
Who are you to assume whether someone has "found Christ" or not? For all you know I could believe that Christ died for my sins too!
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Some want heaven just so they don't have to go to hell. Others have a more selfless reason.
Jesus save me from judgmental Christians!
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First of all, that comment was not general ... it was specific to Irvine. And I know Irvine has not found Christ, because you can tell when someone has. A change occurs in their life.
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