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Old 08-10-2006, 01:57 PM   #46
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3 + 1?


brilliant. that was eloquent in it's simplicity.

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Dude, Silja, I have no idea what you are talking about ... are you asking what the Bible says about other races of people?
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Just because what someone will choose is already known ... it doesn't mean that it is chosen for them. I may know that my brother will wake up tomorrow morning at 8:00 ... but that doesn't mean that I am making his choice to get up. Its two different things to know the future and to choose the future.
But the only reason you know is his alarm is set for that time and that's when he usually wakes up. This has nothing to do with knowing the future. And you surely didn't know before he was born.

You're really not getting it.


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God will reveal Himself to those who seek Him ... no matter where they live or who they are.

I guess that's easy for someone to say when they grew up with the "truth" in their home.
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BonoVox, Acts 8:26-38 shows that God reveals Himself to those who seek Him out ... even those who live in other regions.

God is omniscient ... He knows everything that has and will ever take place.
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but to bring this back to the point of the thread:

love_u2_adam -- you are going to be just fine.

be the best you can, love as much as you can, make the world a better place, believe in God and Jesus as much as you can (if you should choose, if other paths speak to you more profoundly, then follow those), and you will be okay.
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And so everyone is clear ... 2+2 and 3+1 equal the same thing ... so you sort of proved my point.
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Dude, Silja, I have no idea what you are talking about ... are you asking what the Bible says about other races of people?
No I'm saying that the bible claims that the hare is ruminant which is categorically, positively, and completely false. So I guess that your claim that the bible is infallible and comprise a collection of irrefutable facts is categorically, positively, and completely false as well.
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And so everyone is clear ... 2+2 and 3+1 equal the same thing ... so you sort of proved my point.


ah, but there are many ways to get to 4, no?

4+0
3+1
2+2
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5+(-1)

and so on and so on and so on ... many paths.
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BonoVox, Acts 8:26-38 shows that God reveals Himself to those who seek Him out ... even those who live in other regions.

God is omniscient ... He knows everything that has and will ever take place.
You aren't getting it, are you?

Why would you seek God, if you've never heard of God?

Or why would you seek any other God, if everything you know is your God.

If the Muslim God is the truth, you for sure wouldn't seek it out, for you think you've already found the truth.
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And so everyone is clear ... 2+2 and 3+1 equal the same thing ... so you sort of proved my point.
And you've missed theirs.
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First off, this example was to prove that there are absolute truths that exist. Secondly, I could see if there were more than one possible paths. However, what if one of the paths states that it is the only path? What then?
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But I have sought out the Muslim path ... and I have found that it cannot be true.

A person would seek God because He exists, and we were created to have a relationship with Him. People try to fill the empty void in their lives with all kinds of things, but the void is empty because God is not present.
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But I have sought out the Muslim path ... and I have found that it cannot be true.

Good for YOU.

A Hindu sought out the Christian path and found that it cannot be true.

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First off, this example was to prove that there are absolute truths that exist. Secondly, I could see if there were more than one possible paths. However, what if one of the paths states that it is the only path? What then?
Mathematics happen. You've just stated Gödels Theorem - and there are logical ways around it.
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But I have sought out the Muslim path ... and I have found that it cannot be true.
When was this in middle school?

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A person would seek God because He exists, and we were created to have a relationship with Him. People try to fill the empty void in their lives with all kinds of things, but the void is empty because God is not present.
You keep avoiding the true specifics of the question.

So it's obvious you're perspective is pretty narrow so this conversation is pretty much dead.
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