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Old 04-04-2002, 04:02 AM   #1
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Im scared of todays kids!

...its true, I really am.............

Now of course where I live, yes the two divided communities and all that, fightin started and all that and guns obv. have been involved...............but Im talkin about the fact that over her, the parents stay in while their kids and many many others go out and fight the police, each other.......etc.......

....and believe me, in today's world its bloomin scary!!!!!

Just the other day beside a busy road I was on there were like 60 kids out, with police around them, and the kids firing stuff at the police (no surprise there in this country), and these kids are quite capable of attacking your car, getting you out and stealing it, and they all under 18 while ur an adult over 21!!!!!!!!!!!! and you can suddenly feel a bit shit in feeling afraid of them, even when your older and bigger than them...............again its the number in the crowd, isnt it....

Its not just there, fact I read, see on news everyday kids in Uk, all over, the street crime rate going up, the gangs of them going around kicking someone's head in for 30p or a mobile...........I even saw on TV one girl be beaten to the ground by kids younger than her, just for her rings................................................its very scary.............

Thugs, bullies, etc, all walking round............tough, but showing toughness through chewing, bad hairstyles, a certain 'walk', being with other mates mouthing round at pple..............Im truly, honestly scared of today's kid gangs, etc

I cant walk down a street without seeing a gang of 'lads with caps' and feel that if I walk through them they'll hurl abuse......or could easily decide to pick on me........yet Im older than them! There was a time I would not have been afraid or felt intimidated......but actual fact, since Ive had my car, using it feels safer........of course its safer for on dark nights but, maybe thats why I feel what I feel, yet at the same time, the truth is out there that todays kids are not like kids 10 years ago.........

(sorry Im repeatin here )

anyway...........they must feel good about intimadating pple........they have nothing else to do but steal cars, and joyride, or abuse passer-bys, or even shoplift/vandalise places.......

Forget Youth Clubs................theres one near me, and as far as Im concerned the place has just turned into a 'dive' for the gangs to hang out and plan their next mission.........

Well in Belfast thats what I feel they do.........

Im sure other pple here experience it in their countrys.............................

*groan*

its moments like these with the kids like this that makes me wish I didnt live here too.....
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Old 04-04-2002, 09:58 AM   #2
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Maddy sometimes you scare the crap out of me – but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

You know I am a mom of 2 small children – both girls. I hope I am bringing them up to know respect, right and wrong, and to know their own minds.

A lot of kids today seem to be followers – looking for a group that they can become a part of – of course that’s good and bad.

It scares the crap out of me knowing what the world is like today as opposed to when I was growing up. Of course I guess we are sheltered over here. I have never quite understood why people kill over faith. I mean passionate is one thing but isn’t their a commandement “thou shalt love thy neighbour”. But that’s another topic.

Anyhow, I guess I can count my blessings that I live in a place like Canada. I hope and pray every day that god willing my kids are able to grow up and see the adult days because today you just never know.
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Old 04-04-2002, 10:14 AM   #3
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Many times, kids do not understand what kind of problems their actions cause - especially in a group setting. Especially in a situation like Belfast. I would be scared of these kids too.

It reminds me of that book (the tilte that has completely escaped me right now - brain fart) where the kids are on an island with no adults...Lord of the Flys???? (that would be a cool Interference nick).

Until they are put in a situation themselves (receiving end) or, they mature, they will not understand.

The kids are not that much different now than they were when we were there (weather it was my age, Maddie's age, Icelady's age or my father's age). they may have different tatics 0 but they are no different.

Think about the "English Football Hooligans" of the 80's. A lot of the "hooligans" were younger kids recruited by 20-somethings not working.

Any way
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it's true that kids aren't much different - it's the times that I'm worried about

And what you mean comparing my age to your father's
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I guess I see it in this country, its gotten worse....................it wasnt like that in 1992..................

I still blame parents in a way too (forgive me...... ) but thats because a parent whos grown up rough, loudmouthed and very street-wise.............well, its gonna reflect on their kids isnt it? Plus, a 'rough' streetful of kids............never changes............
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I guess I see it in this country, its gotten worse....................it wasnt like that in 1992..................

I still blame parents in a way too (forgive me...... ) but thats because a parent whos grown up rough, loudmouthed and very street-wise.............well, its gonna reflect on their kids isnt it? Plus, a 'rough' streetful of kids............never changes............
man I so hope I'm not one of those parents. I do yell at soccer games at times, and have been known to yell at my kids at times....I know it's not the same over here as over there....and I guess for that I am thankful.

You know Maddy you always make me think...have you ever wondered what made it so that you are there and not somewhere else.

When I see the middle east I always think My word what brings me here instead of there...and then I kiss the ground...wish it were different and better for the kids over there

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oh Im sorry, I dont mean to offend anyone..

(its a community family Im talking about here, from over here.........)

sorry.......

that, or else Im just easily scared...............I need toughned up...............who could help me?

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Maddy,

I hope you're not apologizing to me.

*runs over to re-read what I wrote*

maddy, pay no attention to an old lady like me - I never make any sense when I post
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This post has got a song stuck in my head:

Kids....

I don't know whats wrong with these kids today

Kids....

Who can understand a word they say
Why can't they be like we were
perfect in everyway.......
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yuk i know! maddie u know the way if u go to dublin at like 10 at night there r loadsa ppl out and about....anyway here its scary the center of belfast is sooooo quiet and scary and then a big group of "lads with caps" (spides! ) walk about shouting obscenities at you I HATE THAT! and all that rioting they r doing as well at the moment...its a bunch of children..... and in town on a saturday the city hall the "goths" just sit in the black clothes trying to get drunk...oh man i hate it there.....

I wish i didnt live here.....i wanna live in Dublin
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Hey, at least you don't have to go to school with these scary kids...
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Quote:
Originally posted by zonelistener:
This post has got a song stuck in my head:

Kids....

I don't know whats wrong with these kids today

Kids....

Who can understand a word they say
Why can't they be like we were
perfect in everyway.......
Dammit zone! Now I have the orchestral arrangement to that stuck in my head (I played in the pit for that musical [Bye Bye Birdie] this year)!!

Well, uhm, my place here would be to try and defend kids my age and say that they're good deep down. But I can't do that. 'Cos they aren't. They're materialistic self-centered and most of all cruel. They have no sense of other people's perspectives. I can't tell you how many cruel things have been said to me or what I've heard said about/to other kids. It makes me feel like shit about my generation, that we're a bunch of spoiled brats that have no responsibility. Maturation seems not to have set in on these kids, be they my age (seniors in high school) or college aged, there's no responsibility for acitons. It's paining to see that this is the group that 'represents' me to people outside of my generation, because we are not all like this at all. And take what Zooman91 said there, at least you don't have to go to school with them. Seriously though, how many of you had 'gun scares' at your school where you would PRACTICE hiding from armed gunmen IN YOUR SCHOOL wanting to KILL YOU? It's a sick feeling that overwhelms me on the days we practice those right before we do tornado & fire drills. I don't know how to 'solve' the problem of kids being hooligans, because kids will always be 'hooligans.' They have the least to lose, and therefore push the most. And most, like myself, are not all about authority. But at least I know when to obey...Responsibility needs to begin to be a theme when parenting again, because it obviously wasn't a priority among many of my peer's parents. Just today I heard a kid say, "It doesn't matter, if you are a professional sports player, you can do whatever you want." When asked if Stephen Hawking or other geniouses can do what they please because they, too have money, he responded, "No, you have to play sports to do what you want." WTF? How do you even reverse such thoughts? You can't reason with someone who has no reasoning! Blargh. But yeah, I don't have an answer, maybe someday I will, maybe someday SOMEONE at least will. Until then, we need to rely on parenting and being a good aunt or uncle or cousin or friend and helping eachother become good people so our world is not such an irritating, and in some cases fearful, place to be.

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Maddie, I feel the same way you do...

There're a large gang of kids near where I live. They often act like they own that area. You're not allow to look at them or they'll pick on you immediately. They won't hurt you but what they yell to you is really bad. If you're a pretty girl, they'll say something nasty (and I mean very nasty!). They'll 'invite' you to their home, they'll ask you to sleep with them... (well... in a not-so-good way of asking of course)

At the age of 16, I think I'm still qualified of being a kid. But I just can't stand the younger generations of kids nowadays. I don't know if it's the same in other places, but in Hong Kong, the kids are too pessimistic, not responsible enough and too materialistic.

I read the news today and I saw a 'what does the kids want the most' survey. The result shows that about half of the kids want more money instead of their parents' love. However, at the same time, I heard a lot of the kids blame their parents 'never give them enough love that they need'. Isn't that ironic when they've chosen money above their parents' love?

Also, the rate of suicide among kids is sky-high here. Most of the reasons are either 1. they quarrelled with their friends; or 2. something's going wrong in their life, and that 'something' are things like got caught cheating in an exam, or broke his or her mom's vase and afraid of being scold...
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It really must be the same story everywhere, just different environment, different reasons for the angry kids. We have so many different gangs here its unbelievable. No matter where you come from or where your parents were born, some group out there will hate you. Its possibly a localised problem in certain parts of Sydney, and we also have a big drug problem. I sometimes wonder if our racial issues are overlooked because we take a look at whats going on overseas and kinda dont pay attention to whats happening to our own kids, they are growing up hating each other and there doesnt seem to be anything that can be done about it, or a great number of people willing to help identify the causes due to fear of the repurcussions.

But thats all an argument or debate for another day.

Maddie, I dont have a clue what can be done with your average thug. Kids have most definately changed. I wonder too what is different about the parents of today. Maybe it is cos these parents grew up well, so they may be blase and think my folks did a great job, my kids will turn out fine too. I dunno.

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I still blame parents in a way too (forgive me...... ) but thats because a parent whos grown up rough, loudmouthed and very street-wise.............well, its gonna reflect on their kids isnt it? Plus, a 'rough' streetful of kids............never changes............
I agree, there's this kid, same age as mine (7 yrs old), 2 houses away, and (forgive me for saying this) but my wife and I refer to him as the "street rat". He's been hangin out in the street from dusk till dawn since he was 3 and the mother never even cares where he is. The kid has no rules, no bedtime and twice this month he didn't go to school (1st grade) yet he was outside playing all day. Probably been out of school about 15 days this year alone that I know of. Sorry but if mine doesn't go to school because he's sick, then he ain't goin out playin at all that day. I've seen her take off down the street and leave while the kid is at the bus stop and the bus hasn't even come yet. He pushes all the other kids in the neighborhood around and the mother never says squat. I try to limit the time my kid hangs around with him cause if I stop him from hanging around with him alltogether, mine will get blackballed by all the other kids. I can only imagine when "street rat" is about 13, he'll be into drugs by then and doing b&e's or something. My neighboorhood has about 10 kids in it and the place would be so much better if "the mother who could give a shit what her kid does" would just pack up and move away. All the other kids are influenced by this little "punk" and act up when he's around them. I hate to call a 7 yr old a "punk", but damnit, that's all he is thanks to his mother. In this case, who to blame but the parent....

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