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Old 11-30-2006, 12:30 PM   #31
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I had the tart vs. pie debate with my Australian officemate a couple of weeks ago. Usually about this time of year we have the "what the hell is wrong with Americans they put pumpkin in pies" debate. She of course refuses to even try pumpkin pie even though she's lived here for, what, 30 years now and only calls herself Australian when it benefits her argument. I love her anyway, though.

This thread is awfully Lemonade Standy.
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Meat pie is as Quebecois as apple pie is American.

Clearly a 'nation'al distinction.

Joyeux Nöel!

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Pecan pie
Have you ever had it made with real sugarcane syrup? That's what most of the older folks used to use in it back where I grew up. Now there's only one small place left, in Louisiana, that makes it, and you have to mail order to get it. It's so much less cloying and heavy than corn syrup. Appalachian apple stack cake is another Southern favorite of mine.

My mother's contribution to potlucks and funeral suppers was always her cardamom-rosewater baklava, which people always approached gingerly and with with a deeply suspicious expression, as if they were being offered roast possum. There were always a few people who tried it though, just to be polite, and then they'd be instant converts, but they usually couldn't convince anyone else. After about two decades living in the South, my mother wised up and started presenting it as a "special nut cobbler we serve for tea back in Greece," which had the desired effect--now whenever I go back home for a visit, someone always starts reminiscing about "Sarika's delicious nut cobbler" and asks me if I have the recipe.

I'm pretty sure meat pies were actually once fairly common in the US, especially in New England--not sure what happened to change that, though. Apple pie was, of course, a classic English dessert long before it became a national favorite here.
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Old 11-30-2006, 04:43 PM   #35
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Have you ever had it made with real sugarcane syrup?
NO!!!! I'm so deprived!!!! Where is it in Louisiana? I'm taking my students to New Orleans in March...perhaps I can order some so they can get a taste of NOLA before they go?
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http://www.steensyrup.com/
http://www.steensyrup.com/recipes260.html

They're in Abbeville, which is a little ways south of Lafayette. I've never tried the recipe on their website, but hmmm, maybe I will now that I've noticed it. They combine it with a only a very small amount of ordinary white sugar, which is interesting--I don't actually use a recipe, but what I've always done is combine it with a good-quality dark-brown sugar, like muscavado or turbinado...like other less-refined sweeteners, it has smoky-bitter undertones that can be overwhelming if used alone. 1 cup brown sugar and 2/3 cup cane syrup should be about right, I think, if you want to try the brown sugar route. Not sure what the cornstarch and flour are for--I've never needed that, but then I only boil the syrup about a minute, I toss a couple tablespoons of rum into it, plus I beat in one more egg than they do afterwards, so maybe that's got something to do with it? Also I use, like, double that amount of chopped pecans! Well anyhow, I'm just rambling now lol.

It's great in gingerbread too...
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this thread...

did not have the desired result.

i'm capable enough to understand what belongs here or what belongs at lemonade stand. i DO have the capacity...

so in other words, enough with the pie.

on with being outraged at the lack of political correctedness in our society. or the fact there's too much. or the fact that you agree there's too much and little of it all at the same time.

won't someone please think of the children?
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on with being outraged at the lack of political correctedness in our society. or the fact there's too much. or the fact that you agree there's too much and little of it all at the same time.

won't someone please think of the children?


happy holidays!
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this thread...

did not have the desired result.

i'm capable enough to understand what belongs here or what belongs at lemonade stand. i DO have the capacity...

so in other words, enough with the pie.

on with being outraged at the lack of political correctedness in our society. or the fact there's too much. or the fact that you agree there's too much and little of it all at the same time.

won't someone please think of the children?
How DARE you interrupt the pie discussion??? I'm offended.

I'm cake or pie, but I lean toward pie. Particularly pecan & sweet potato...have a sweet potato pie & you'll forget pumpkin for sure.

And as for meat pies, there's Jamaican meat pies but I think some call them patties...
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Too much and too little at the same time.

Pie, that is.

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"Pie" can be a nasty word!
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happy holidays!
that's better.

...but only a bit.

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bear, do you need a massausage?
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Zoomerang, meet you out the front of my local government offices tomorrow! We're gonna picket these bastards till New Years, as part of our ongoing rearguard action in the continuing War on Christmas (TM).

I've even got two ill-fitting t-shirts for the both of us... 'Put The Christ back in Xmas!'
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