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Old 07-22-2005, 07:00 AM   #1
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Illegal Immigrants And College

I don't usually start threads (but I am addicted to jumping into the fray once they're started), but I thought I should let you know that my state is one of 8 that gives illegal immigrants in-state tuition rates. Meanhwile US citizen Joe Schmoe from New York has to pay about 2 times the in-state rates to go to school here.

Illegal immigrants can also be given grants and financial aid for college.

Isn't that peachy?
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How long do they have to live there?
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Strange.

Over on this side of the pond, college education is heavily subsidised and in fact tuition fees for undergraduate degrees are currently entirely free in Ireland (though as far as I know it does not cover books, course materials).

However (as far as I know) a non-EU citizen studying in Ireland must pay full unsubsidised tuition fees.

But how can a college give illegal immigrants grants, etc.

Wouldn't they be under some kind of obligation to report the illegal immigrant to the government?
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Illegal immigrants attending classes help boost racial diversity and broaden demographics. We all know how colleges love to boost those things and then brag about them in their catalogues.
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3 years.

Meanwhile, legal immigrants have to pay out-of-state state rates.
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But how can a college give illegal immigrants grants, etc.

Wouldn't they be under some kind of obligation to report the illegal immigrant to the government?
That's what I thought.
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3 years.

Meanwhile, legal immigrants have to pay out-of-state state rates.
So they were minors when they came to the states? I think the law is completely different for minors, I can't remember the specifics but I'll try and look it up.

Plus out of state students can establish state residency less than 3 years in order to pay state tuition.
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So they were minors when they came to the states? I think the law is completely different for minors, I can't remember the specifics but I'll try and look it up.

Plus out of state students can establish state residency less than 3 years in order to pay state tuition.
The onl;y prerequisite I know of is that they had to have graduated from a Texas high school. I don't think they had to have come to the country as minors.
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The cost of illegal immigration is staggering, yet usually not reported or under-reported.


As for the government doing something about it - illegal immigration is the new tabacco
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I have to agree with you. The benefits we give to illegal immigrants are mindblowingly stupid. It's crazy.

But, on the other side, they contribute $8 billion a year to Social Security that they'll never be able to reclaim.

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I think its incredibly wrong. Its not fair for legal immigrants or American-born citizens to save every penny to pay for their tuition, or spend many years paying off loans, meanwhile these people who aren't here legally are enjoying a free pass.

It makes you wonder how much does Congress care about Americans if they allow illegal immigrants to have things so easily yet their own citizens have to struggle. Its like its almost pointless to be a citizen; you're better off being illegal.
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Meanwhile, legal immigrants have to pay out-of-state state rates.
Joe Schmoe from New York can attend college where he lives at a lesser rate.



So if my neighbor, who came to this country when he was 6 months old and is a CA resident wanted to attend a Texas College he would be charged more.

So really, the preference is FOR Texas residences?
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I have to agree with you. The benefits we give to illegal immigrants are mindblowingly stupid. It's crazy.

But, on the other side, they contribute $8 billion a year to Social Security that they'll never be able to reclaim.

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and it is o so nice and usefull that illegal immigrants are the cheapest workers.
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So should a college student who who has lived in Texas his/her entire life be penalized because of a choice the parents made? Being brought across the border illegally as a child isn't something they had any control over.

I guess you could say the parents should have thought about that before they made the choice to break the law but again, why should someone who was not of legal age when they were brought here be held responsible for the parent's choice?
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I'm often reminded of the "Bear Patrol" episode of "The Simpsons." A bear wanders into Springfield, everyone gets scared, and so they spend what seems like billions of dollars on a "Bear Patrol." No bears show up, so they presume the "Bear Patrol" is working.

But they start running out of money, and, rather than blaming the exorbitant spending on the "Bear Patrol," Mayor Quimby blames it on "illegal immigrants." Thus, all of Springfield's financial woes are now the result of "illegal immigrants," not the "Bear Patrol."

I find it all the more funny that this episode was created in 1996, not in the post-9/11 world that now has its own form of "Bear Patrol" and blames everything on illegal immigrants. Forget the fact that we've cut taxes to the point of irresponsibility, while many Fortune 500 companies these days pay little to no taxes. Frankly, we get what we pay for, or, in this case, we reap what we've elected into office: a bunch of xenophobic, ethnocentric, nationalistic, scapegoating, do-nothing buffoons.

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