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Old 04-28-2002, 12:35 AM   #1
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If God had a name...

What would it be and would you call it to his face
If you were faced with him in all his glory
What would you ask him
If you had just one question.
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Since it WILL happen,, I won't rush it. Someday, maybe he will reveal it all to me.

HE made me, so I also won't question. I guess my life is too good.
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Welcome to the forum, Ms. Joan Osborne.

I believe he DOES have a name...Jesus Christ. And when I get to heaven, I seriously am considering asking him if he will let me see Balaam's talking donkey.
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Hey, don't look now
There goes God
In his sexy pants and his sausage dog
And he can't stand Beelzebub
Cos he looks so good in black, in black


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Christ was Jesus' last name? Hmmmm - and I thought Jesus was God's son - so if Jesus Christ is his name - then the Earthly Jesus Christ should be Jesus Christ Jnr. or Jesus Christ II, no?
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Christ was Jesus' last name? Hmmmm - and I thought Jesus was God's son - so if Jesus Christ is his name - then the Earthly Jesus Christ should be Jesus Christ Jnr. or Jesus Christ II, no?
No, Christ was not Jesus' last name, but he is called Jesus Christ because it is short for Jesus the Christ. Jesus' "last name" while on earth was Bar Joseph (Jesus of Joseph). I believe in the Trinity, in which all 3 members (Father, Son and Spirit) are God.

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i thought God's name was Yaweh??
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i thought God's name was Yaweh??
Yeep, that's one of the Father's names. The Father is also called "I AM". You might be interested in this...I found a list of the Biblical titles and names of God:
The Complete Listing of the Names of God


The Names and Titles of God The Father

Personal Names:
 Elohim - Plurality in Unity
 El - The Strong One
 Elah - An Oak
 Eloah - The Adorable One
 El Elyon - God Most High
 El Roi - The Lord That Seeth
 El-Elohe-Israel - God of Israel - Genesis 33:20
 El Olam - God of Eternity
 El Shaddai - The Almighty, All Sufficient God
 Adon-Adonai - Jehovah Our Ruler
 Jah - The Independent One
 Jehovah - The Eternal, Ever-loving One
 Jehovah-Elohim - The Majestic Omnipotent God
 Jehovah-Hoseenu - The Lord Our Maker
 Jehovah-Jireh - The Lord Will Provide - Genesis 22:14
 Jehovah-Rophi - The Lord, The Physician
 Jevovah-Nissi - The Lord our Banner
 Jehovah M'Keddesh - The Lord Doth Sanctify
 Jehovah-Eloheenu - Lord our God
 Jehovah-Eloheka - Lord Thy God
 Jehovah-Elohay - The Lord My God
 Jehovah-Shalom - The Lord Our Peace
 Jehovah-Tseboath - The Lord of Hosts
 Jehovah-Rohi - The Lord My Shepherd
 Jehovah-Tsidkenu - The Lord Our Righteousness
 Jehovah-Makkeh - The Lord Shall Smite Thee
 Jehovah-Gmolah - The God of Recompenses
 Jehovah-Shammah - The Lord is There
 Jehovah-Whose name is Jealous - Exodus 34:14

Father As A Distinguishing Title of The New Testament
 A Father - 2 Corinthians 6:18; Hebrews 1:5
 God The Father - 2 Timothy 1:2; 2 Peter 1:17
 God Our Father - Ephesians 1:2
 God and Father of Our Lord Jesus - Ephesians 1:3
 Father of Mercies - 2 Corinthians 1:3
 Father of Spirits - Hebrews 12:9
 Father of Lights - James 1:17
 Father of Glory - Ephesians 1:17
 The Father - 1 John 1:2; 3:1; 4:14
 Abba Father - Mark 14:36

Symbolic Designations:
 Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:9, 13, 22
 Rock - God in His Strength & Permanency
 Refuge - God is Our Haven from the Avenger
 Fortress - God as Our Defense Against the Foe
 Shield - God a Preserver & Protester of His Children
 Sun - God Is the Source of Light and Life
 Crown & Diadem - God in His Sovereignty & Radiance
 Wall of Fire - God Who Compasseth Our Path
 Refiner, Purifier - God as the Remover of Dross
 Husband - God in His Providential Role
 Governor - God Who Rules by Love
 Redeemer - God is The Emancipator of the Captives
 King - God in His Unequaled Majesty

Names of God the Son:
 Adam, the Last - 1 Corinthians 15:45,47
 Advocate - 1 John 2:1,2
 Comforter - John 14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7
 Almighty - Revelation 1:8; 15:3
 Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:8; 22:13
 Amen - Revelation 3:14
 Angel of Jehovah - Genesis 16:7-11
 the Angel of the Covenant - Malachi 3:1
 Angel of the Presence - Isaiah 63:7
 the Sent One - Romans 8:3; Galatians 4:4
 Anointed - Psalm 2:2
 Apostle - Hebrews 3:1
 Arm of the Lord - Isaiah 51:9, 53:1
 Author - Hebrews 5:9, 12:2
 Beginning and End - (See under Alpha [Revelation 22:13])
 Beginning of the Creation of God - Revelation 3:14
 Beloved - Matthew 12:18
 Beloved Son - Matthew 3:17; Luke 3:22
 Blessed and Only Potentate - 1 Timothy 6:15
 Branch - Zechariah 6:12
 Branch of Jehovah - Isaiah 4:2
 Branch of David - Isaiah 11:1; Jeremiah 23:5; 33:15
 Jehovah's Servant - Zechariah 3:8,9
 Name of the Man - Zechariah 6:12,13
 Bread - John 6:41
 Bridegroom - Matthew 25:1-10; Mark 2:19, 20; John 3:29
 Bright and Morning Star - Revelation 22:16
 Brightness of the Father's Glory - Hebrews 1:3
 Captain of Our Salvation - Hebrews 2:10
 Carpenter - Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3
 Chief Cornerstone - 1 Peter 2:6; Isaiah 28:16
 Chiefest Among Ten Thousand - Song of Solomon 5:10
 Child - Isaiah 9:6; Luke 2:27, 43; Acts 4:30
 Christ - John 6:69
 Christ of God - Luke 9:20
 Christ the Chosen of God - Luke 23:35; 1 Peter 2:4,5
 Christ the Son of God - Acts 9:20
 Christ the Son of the Blessed - Mark 14:61
 The Very Christ - Acts 9:22
 Lord Jesus Christ - 2 Timothy 4:22
 Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25
 Ever Strong ConsolationHebrews - 6:18
 Counsellor - Isaiah 9:6
 Covenant - Isaiah 42:6
 David, Perfect King - Jeremiah 30:9; Hosea 3:5
 Dayspring - Luke 1:78
 Deliverer - Romans 11:26
 Desire of All Nations - Haggai 2:7
 Door - John 10:7,9
 Elect - Isaiah 42:1
 Emmanuel - Matthew 1:23
 Ensign - Isaiah 11:10,12
 Everlasting Father - Isaiah 9:6
 Faithful and True - Revelation 19:11
 Faithful Witness - Revelation 1:5; 3:14
 Finisher of Faith - Hebrews 12:2
 First and Last - Revelation 1:11; 22:13
 First Begotten - Hebrews 1:6
 First Begotten of the Dead - Revelation 1:5; Colossians 1:18
 Firstborn among the Brethren - Romans 8:29
 Firstborn of Every Creature - Colossians 1:15
 Forerunner - Hebrews 6:20
 Foundation - 1 Corinthians 3:11
 The Rock - Matthew 7:24
 Fountain - Zechariah 13:1
 Friend - Proverbs 18:24; Matthew 11:19
 Gift of God - John 4:10
 Glory - James 2:1
 Lord of Glory - 1 Corinthians 2:8
 The Father of Glory - Ephesians 1:17
 Glory of Israel - Luke 2:32
 God - Mark 2:7, 10; John 10:28-30
 God our Savior - 1 Timothy 1:1; Titus 2:13; 3:4
 the image of God - Colossians 1:15
 God and Savior - 2 Peter 1:1; 2:20; 3:2, 18
 the True God - 1 John 5:20
 Good Master - Matthew 19:16, 17
 Governor - Matthew 2:6
 Head - Revelation 19:12
 The Head of every man - 1 Corinthians 11:3
 The Head of the Church - Ephesians 1:22, 23; 5:23; Colossians 1:18-20
 The Head of the Corner - Matthew 21:42
 Heir of All Things - Hebrews 1:2; Romans 8:16,17
 High Priest - Hebrews 3:1; 4:14; 7:23, 24
 Propitiation or mercy seat - Romans 3:25
 Holy One - Psalm 16:10; Daniel 9:24
 Hope of Glory - Colossians 1:27
 Horn of Salvation - Luke 1:69
 I Am - John 8:58
 the bread of life - John 6:35
 the light of the world - John 8:12; 9:5
 the door of the sheep - John 10:7
 the good shepherd - John 10:11
 the resurrection & the life - John 11:25
 the way, the truth, the life - John 11:25
 the true vine - John 15:1,5
 Image - Hebrews 1:3
 Jesus - Matthew 1:21
 Jesus of Nazareth - John 18:5.7; 19:19; Mark 1:24
 Jesus the Nazarene - Acts 2:22; 6:14; 26:9
 Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews - John 19:19
 Judge - Acts 10:42; 17:31
 Just One - Acts 7:52
 Righteous OneActs 22:14; 1 John 2:1; 1 Peter 3:18
 King - Luke 19:38
 King of Glory - Psalm 24:7-10
 King of Kings - Revelation 19:16
 King Over All the Earth - Zechariah 14:9
 Lamb - Revelation 5:6
 Lamb of God - John 1:36
 Leader - Isaiah 55:4
 Life - John 14:6
 Light - John 1:7
 Light Everlasting - Isaiah 16:19,20
 Light of the World - John 8:12
 Light of Gentiles - Isaiah 42:6; 49:6; 60:3; Luke 2:32
 Lion - Revelation 5:5
 Living Bread - John 6:41
 Living Stone - 1 Peter 2:6; Isaiah 28:16
 Lord - Matthew 22:43, 44
 Lord's Word -
 the Word of God - Revelation 19:13
 the Word of The Lord1 Thessalonians 4:15
 Lord's Day - Revelation 1:10
 Lord's Supper - 1 Corinthians 11:20
 Lord's Money - Matthew 25:18
 Lord's House - Haggai 1:2; Matthew 21:13
 Lord From Heaven - 1 Corinthians 15:47
 Lord of Glory - 1 Corinthians 2:8; James 2:1
 Lord of Hosts - Isaiah 44:6
 Lord of the Sabbath - Matthew 12:8; Mark 2:28
 Lord of the Dead and Living - Romans 14:9; Revelation 1:5
 Lord and Saviour - Luke 2:11; 2 Peter 1:11; 2:20; 3:18
 Lord our Righteousness - Romans 5:18-21; 1 Corinthians 1:30
 Man - John 19:5; Romans 5:15; 1 Corinthians 15:47
 Master - Matthew 23:8, 10; John 13:13
 Mediator - Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5; Hebrews 12:24
 Messiah - Daniel 9:25, 26; John 1:41; 4:25
 Mighty God - Isaiah 9:6; Titus 2:13
 Morning Star - Revelation 22:16
 Nazarene - Matthew 2:23 (see under Jesus of Nazareth)
 Offspring of David - Revelation 22:16 (see under Seed of David)
 Only Begotten - John 1:14, 18
 Passover - 1 Corinthians 5:7; Exodus 11; 12:15,17,23
 Physician - Luke 4:23; Psalm 32:1
 Plant of Renown - Ezekiel 34:29
 Potentate - 1Timothy 6:15
 Power of God - 1 Corinthians 1:24
 Precious - Isaiah 28:16 (see under title Cornerstone)
 Priest - Hebrews 7:17 (see under title High Priest)
 Prince - Acts 5:31
 Messiah the Prince - Daniel 9:25
 The Prince of Peace - Isaiah 9:6
 Prophet - John 7:40
 Rabbi - John 1:49
 Rabboni - Mark 10:51; John 20:16
 Redeemer - Job 19:25; Isaiah 44:24; Luke 2:38
 Resurrection - John 11:25
 Righteous - 1 John 2:1
 Righteous Branch - Jeremiah 23:5
 Righteous Servant - Isaiah 53:11
 Righteous Judge - 2 Timothy 4:8
 Rock - 1 Corinthians 10:4
 Root - Romans 15:12; Revelation 5:5; 22:16
 A Root of David - Revelation 5:5; 22:16
 Rose - Song of Solomon 2:1
 Preciousness - 1 Peter 2:7
 Ruler - Micah 5:2 (see under title Governor)
 Sanctification - 1 Corinthians 1:30
 Saviour - Luke 2:11; 1 Timothy 2:3; Titus 3:6
 Sceptre - Genesis 49:10; Numbers 24:17
 Second Man - 1 Corinthians 15:47
 Seed - Genesis 3:15; 2 Timothy 2:8
 The Seed of The WomanGenesis - 3:15; Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:25
 The Seed of Abraham - Galatians - 3:16; Hebrews 2:16; Genesis 12:7
 The Seed of David (son of David) - Matthew 1:1
 Servant - Isaiah 52:13-15; Matthew 12:18
 Shepherd and Bishop - 1 Peter 2:25
 Shiloh - Genesis 49:10
 Son - Colossians 1:13; Hebrews 3:6
 His Son, Jesus Christ - 1 John 1:7; 3:23
 Son of the Father - 2 John 3
 Son of the Blessed - Mark 14:61
 Son of the Highest - Luke 1:32
 Son of the Most High GodMark 5:7
 Son, My Beloved - Matthew 3:17; Mark 12:6
 Son, Only Begotten - John 1:14; 18:3:16 (see under title Only Begotten)
 Son of the Living God - Matthew 16:16; Thessalonians 1:9
 Son of God - Matthew 8:29; 14:33; John 10:36
 Son of Man - Matthew 8:20; Mark 2:10; John 1:51; 3:13
 Son of David - Matthew 1:1; 21:9
 Son of Joseph - Luke 3:23
 Son of Mary - Matthew 1:25; Mark 6:3
 Star - Numbers 24:17
 Stone - Matthew 21:42; 1 Peter 2:8
 Sun of Righteousness - Malachi 4:2 (see under Lord our Righteousness)
 Sure Foundation - Isaiah 28:16 (see under Chief Cornerstone and under
 Surety - Hebrews 7:22
 Teacher - John 3:2
 Tried Stone - Isaiah 28:16 (see under title Stone)
 True - Revelation 19:11 (see under title Righteous)
 True God - 1 John 5:20 (see under title God)
 True Vine - John 15:1-17
 The True Light - John 1:9
 The True Bread - John 6:32
 The True Witness - Revelation 3:14
 Truth - John 14:6; 8:32, 36
 Very Christ - Acts 9:22
 Way - John 14:6
 Wisdom - 1 Corinthians 1:30; (see 1:18-31)
 Witness - John 18:37; Revelation 3:14
 Wonderful - Isaiah 9:6
 Word - John 1:1; Revelation 19:13
 The Word of God - Revelation 19:13
 Young Child - Matthew 2:8, 13; Acts 4:27, 30

The Names and Titles of God the Spirit (Old Testament)

Names & Titles Expressing His Relation to God:
 The Spirit of God - Genesis 1:2
 The Spirit of the Lord - Isaiah 11:2
 The Spirit of the Lord God - Isaiah 61:1
 The Spirit - Numbers 11:17, 25,26
 My Spirit - Genesis 6:3
 Thy Spirit - Nehemiah 9:30 ASV
 His Spirit - Psalm 106:33
 Those Expressing His Character:
 The Good Spirit - Nehemiah 9:20
 Thy Free Spirit - Psalm 51:12
 The Holy Spirit - Psalm 51:11
 His Holy Spirit - Isaiah 63:10, 11
 A New Spirit - Ezekiel 11:19; 18:31; 36:26
Those Expressing His Operations Upon Man:
 The Spirit That Was Upon Moses - Numbers 11:25, 29
 The Spirit of Wisdom - Isaiah 11:2; Exodus 28:3; 31:1-4
 The Spirit of Understanding - Isaiah 11:2
 The Spirit of Counsel and Might - Isaiah 11:2
 The Spirit of Knowledge and the Fear of the Lord - Isaiah 11:2
 The Spirit of Grace and Supplication - Zechariah 12:10
 The Spirit of Burning - Isaiah 4:4
 The Voice of the Almighty - Ezekiel 1:24; 10:5
 The Voice of Jehovah - Psalm 29
 The Breath of the Almighty - Job 32:8 ASV; 33:4

New Testament Names & Titles
Titles Combining Him With God The Father:
 The Spirit of God - Matthew 3:16; 12:28
 The Spirit of the Lord - Luke 4:18; Acts 8:39; 2 Corinthians 3:17, 18
 My Spirit - Matthew 12:18; Acts 2:4, 17 (see Genesis 6:3)
 His Spirit - Ephesians 3:16; 1

Thessalonians 4:8; 1 John 4:13
 The Promise of the Father - Acts 1:4; 2:33
 The Promise of My Father - Luke 24:49
 The Spirit of Your Father - Matthew 10:20
 The Promise of the Spirit - Galatians 3:14
 The Gift of God - John 4:10, 14; Acts 10:45; 1 John 3:24
 The Spirit of Him Who raised up Jesus - Romans 1:4; 8:11; 1 Peter 3:18
 The Spirit Which is of God - 1 Corinthians 6:11
 The Spirit of the Living God - 2 Corinthians 3:3
 The Holy Spirit of God - Ephesians 4:30
 The Holy Spirit - Thessalonians 4:8
 The Power of the Highest - Luke 1:35

Titles and Names Expressing His Relation to God The Son:
 The Spirit of Jesus - Acts 16:6,7 ASV
 The Spirit of Christ - Romans 8:9; 1 Peter 1:11
 The Spirit of Jesus Christ - Philippians 1:19
 The Spirit of His Son - Galatians 4:6
 His Witness....So is the Holy Spirit - Acts 5:30-32
 Another Comforter - John 14:16

Titles & Names Expressing His Own Essential
Divinity:
 God - Acts 5:3,4
 Lord - 2 Corinthians 3:17, 18 ASV
 Eternal Spirit - Hebrews 9:14
 Omnipresent Spirit - Psalm 139:7-10
 Omniscient Spirit - 1 Corinthians 2:10, 11; Romans 8:26,27; Isaiah 40:13
 Omnipotent Spirit - Romans 15:13; Zechariah 4:6
 Seven Spirits - Revelation 1:4.5; 4:5; 5:6

Titles and Names Expressing His Character:
 Holy Spirit - Romans 15:16 ASV
 Holy One - 1 John 2:20
 The Spirit of Holiness - Romans 1:4
 Spirit of Love - 2 Timothy 1:7
 Good Spirit - Nehemiah 9:20; Psalm 14:10
 The Spirit of Truth - John 14:17; 15:26; 16:13; 1 John 4:6
 The Comforter - John 14:16, 26; 15:26; Acts 9:31; 2 Corinthians 1:4
 The Spirit of Adoption - Romans 8:15
 The Spirit of Faith - 2 Corinthians 4:13
 The Spirit of Praise - 1 Corinthians 14:15
 The Spirit of Wisdom & Revelation - Ephesians 1:17; 3:5
 The Spirit of Promise - Ephesians 1:13, 14
 The Spirit of Grace - Zechariah 12:10; Hebrews 10:29
 The Spirit of Glory - 1 Peter 4:14
 Unction From the Holy One - 1 John 2:20, 27; 2 Corinthians 1:21

Symbolic Designations:
 Wind - John 3:8; Acts 2:2
 Water - John 7:37-39; 4:14; Psalm 87:7
 Fire - Isaiah 4:4; Acts 2:3
 Salt - Matthew 5:13; Mark 9:49, 50
 Oil - Hebrews 1:9; Acts 10:38
 Wine - Acts 2:13-15; Ephesians 5:18
 Seed - 1 John 3:9; John 14:16
 Seal - Ephesians 1:13; 4:30; John 6:27; 2 Corinthians 1:22
 Earnest - 2 Corinthians 1:22; 5:5; Ephesians 1:13,14
 Clothing - Judges 6:34; 1 Chronicles 12:18; 2 Chronicles 24:20
 Seven (representing "perfection") - Zechariah 3:9; Revelation 5:6
Symbols Drawn from Animate Life:
 Dove - Genesis 1:2; Luke 3:22
 Porter - John 10:3; Acts 16:6-11
 Paraclete - John 14:16, 26
 Comforter "Walking" - Acts 9:31 ASV
 Advocate - 1 John 2:1
 Helper - Romans 8:26
 Witness - Romans 8:16; 9:1
 Finger - Matthew 12:28; with Luke 11:20


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h Elohim - Plurality in Unity
"Elohim" is also the name of the Sumerian sun god. It is hence believed that Judaism arose out of worship of this god. Considering that Abraham is traditionally from Ur, which is in ancient Sumer, this is likely the case.

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"Elohim" is also the name of the Sumerian sun god. It is hence believed that Judaism arose out of worship of this god. Considering that Abraham is traditionally from Ur, which is in ancient Sumer, this is likely the case.
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Here's another explanation of Elohim, however, from teh Catholic Encyclopedia:

PRIVATE Elohim
(Sept., theos; Vulg., Deus).
Elohim is the common name for God. It is a plural form, but "The usage of the
language gives no support to the supposition that we have in the plural form
Elohim, applied to the God of Israel, the remains of an early polytheism, or at
least a combination with the higher spiritual beings" (Kautzsch). Grammarians
call it a plural of majesty or rank, or of abstraction, or of magnitude (Gesenius,
Grammatik, 27th ed., nn. 124 g, 132 h). The Ethiopic plural amlak has become
a proper name of God. Hoffmann has pointed out an analogous plural elim in
the Phoenician inscriptions (Ueber einige phon. Inschr., 1889, p. 17 sqq.), and
Barton has shown that in the tablets from El-Amarna the plural form ilani
replaces the singular more than forty times (Proceedings of the American
Oriental Society, 21-23 April, 1892, pp. cxcvi-cxcix).
Etymology
Elohim has been explained as a plural form of Eloah or as plural derivative of
El. Those who adhere to the former explanation do not agree as to the
derivation of Eloah. There is no such verbal stem as alah in Hebrew; but the
Arabist Fleischer, Franz Delitzsch, and others appeal to the Arabic aliha,
meaning "to be filled with dread", "anxiously to seek refuge", so that ilah
(eloah) would mean in the first place "dread", then the object of dread. Gen.,
xxi, 42, 53, where God is called "the fear of Isaac", Is., viii, 13, and Ps. lxxv,
12, appear to support this view. But the fact that aliha is probably not an
independent verbal stem but only a denominative from ilah, signifying originally
"possessed of God" (cf. enthousiazein, daimonan) renders the explanation
more than precarious. There is no more probability in the contention of Ewald,
Dillmann, and others that the verbal stem, alah means "to be mighty": and is to
regarded as a by-form of the stem alah; that, therefore, Eloah grows out of
alah as El springs from alah. Baethgen (Beitrage, 297) has pointed out that of
the fifty-seven occurrences of Eloah forty-one belong to the Book of Job, and
the others to late texts or poetic passages. Hence he agrees with Buhl in
maintaining that the singular form Eloah came into existence only after the
plural form Elohim had been long in common use; in this case, a singular was
supplied for its pre-existent plural. But even admitting Elohim to be the prior
form, its etymology has not thus far been satisfactorily explained. The ancient
Jewish and the early ecclesiastical writers agree with many modern scholars in
deriving Elohim from El, but there is a great difference of opinion as to the
method of derivation. Nestle (Theol. Stud. aus Wrt., 1882, pp. 243 sqq.)
supposes that the plural has arisen by the insertion of an artificial h, like the
Hebrew amahoth (maidens) from amah. Buhl (Gesenius Hebraisches
Handworterbuch, 12th ed., 1895, pp. 41 sq.) considers Elohim as a sort of
augmentative form of El; but in spite of their disagreement as to the method of
derivation, these writers are one in supposing that in early Hebrew the singular
of the word signifying God was El, and its plural form Elohim; and that only
more recent times coined the singular form Eloah, thus giving Elohim a
grammatically correct correspondent. Lagrange, however, maintains that
Elohim and Eloah are derived collaterally and independently from El.
The Use of the Word
The Hebrews had three common names of God, El, Elohim, and Eloah;
besides, they had the proper name Yahweh. Nestle is authority for the
statement that Yahweh occurs about six thousand times in the Old Testament,
while all the common names of God taken together do not occur half as often.
The name Elohim is found 2570 times; Eloah, 57 times [41 in Job; 4 in Pss.; 4
in Dan.; 2 in Hab.; 2 in Canticle of Moses (Deut., xxxii); 1 in Prov., 1 in Is.; 1 in
Par.; 1 in Neh. (II Esd.)]; El, 226 times (Elim, 9 times). Lagrange (Etudes sur
les religions smitiques, Paris, 1905, p. 71) infers from Gen., xlvi, 3 (the most
mighty God of thy father), Ex., vi, 3 (by the name of God Almighty), and from
the fact that El replaces Yah in proper names, the conclusion that El was at
first a proper and personal name of God. Its great age may be shown from its
general occurrence among all the Semitic races, and this in its turn may be
illustrated by its presence in the proper names found in Gen., iv, 18; xxv, 13;
xxxvi, 43. Elohim is not found among all the Semitic races; the Aramaeans
alone seem to have had an analogous form. It has been suggested that the
name Elohim must have been formed after the descendants of Shem had
separated into distinct nations.
Meaning of the Word
If Elohim be regarded as derived from El, its original meaning would be "the
strong one" according to Wellhausen's derivation of El, from ul (Skizzen, III,
169); or "the foremost one", according to Nldeke's derivation of El from ul or
il, "to be in front" (Sitzungsberichte der berlinischen Akademie der
Wissenschaften, 1880, pp. 760 sqq.; 1882, pp. 1175 sqq.); or "the mighty
one", according to Dillmann's derivation of El from alah or alay, "to be mighty"
(On Genesis, I, 1); or, finally "He after whom one strives", "Who is the goal of
all human aspiration and endeavour", "to whom one has recourse in distress
or when one is in need of guidance", "to who one attaches oneself closely",
coincidentibus interea bono et fine, according to the derivation of El from the
preposition el, "to", advocated by La Place (cf. Lagarde, Uebersicht, etc., p.
167), Lagarde (op. cit., pp. 159 sqq.), Lagrange (Religions semitiques, pp. 79
sqq.), and others. A discussion of the arguments which militate for and against
each of the foregoing derivations would lead us too far.
If we have recourse to the use of the word Elohim in the study of its meaning,
we find that in its proper sense it denotes either the true God or false gods,
and metaphorically it is applied to judges, angels, and kings; and even
accompanies other nouns, giving them a superlative meaning. The presence
of the article, the singular construction of the word, and its context show with
sufficient clearness whether it must be taken in its proper or its metaphorical
sense, and what is its precise meaning in each case. Kautzsch (Encyclopaedia
Biblica, III, 3324, n. 2) endeavours to do away with the metaphorical sense of
Elohim. Instead of the rendering "judges" he suggests the translation "God", as
witness of a lawsuit, as giver of decisions on points of law, or as dispenser of
oracles; for the rendering "angels" he substitutes "the gods of the heathen",
which, in later post-exilic times, fell to a lower rank. But this interpretation is not
supported by solid proof.
According to Renan (Histoire du peuple d'Israel, I, p. 30) the Semites believed
that the world is surrounded, penetrated, and governed by the Elohim, myriads
of active beings, analogous to the spirits of the savages, alive, but somehow
inseparable from one another, not even distinguished by their proper names
as the gods of the Aryans, so that they can be considered as a confused
totality. Marti (Geschichte der israelitischen Religion, p. 26), too, finds in
Elohim a trace of the original Semitic polydemonism; he maintains that the
word signified the sum of the divine beings that inhabited any given place.
Baethgen (op. cit., p. 287), F.C. Baur (Symbolik und Mythologie, I, 304), and
Hellmuth-Zimmermann (Elohim, Berlin, 1900) make Elohim an expression of
power, grandeur, and totality. Lagrange (op. cit., p. 78) urges against these
views that even the Semitic races need distinct units before they have a sum,
and distinct parts before that arrive at a totality. Moreover, the name El is prior
to Elohim (op. cit., p. 77 sq.) and El is both a proper and a common name of
God. Originally it was either a proper name and has become a common name,
or it was a common name has become a proper name. In either case, El, and,
therefore, also its derivative form Elohim, must have denoted the one true
God. This inference becomes clear after a little reflection. If El was, at first, the
proper name of a false god, it could not become the common name of a false
god, it could not become the common name for deity any more than Jupiter or
Juno could; and if it was, at first, the common name for deity, it could become
the proper name only of that God who combined in him all the attributes of
deity, who was the one true God. This does not imply that all the Semitic races
had from the beginning a clear concept of God's unit and Divine attributes,
though all had originally the Divine name El.
VIGOUROUX in Dict. de la Bible, s.v.; KNABENBAUER, Lexicon Biblicum (Paris,
1907), II, 63; KAUTZSCH in Encyclopaedia Biblica (New York, 1902), III, 3323 sq.;
LAGRANGE, Etudes sur les religions semitiques (Paris, 1905), 19, 71, 77 sqq.
A.J. MAAS
Transcribed by Thomas M. Barrett
Dedicated to the glory of God and His Son, Jesus Christ
The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume V
Copyright 1909 by Robert Appleton Company
Online Edition Copyright 1999 by Kevin Knight
Nihil Obstat, May 1, 1909. Remy Lafort, Censor
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Then Moses said to God, "Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I shall say to them, `The God of your fathers has sent me to you.' Now they may say to me, `What is His name?' What shall I say to them?"
And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM"; and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, `I AM has sent me to you.'"


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Here's an interesting website:
http://www.yhwh.com/GINGN/gingn.htm

especially interesting is the bottom of the page when the Hebrew spelling of God's name is explained.

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[Names of God the Son:
h Adam, the Last - 1 Corinthians 15:45,47
h Advocate - 1 John 2:1,2
h Comforter - John 14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7
h Almighty - Revelation 1:8; 15:3
h Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:8; 22:13
h Amen - Revelation 3:14
h Angel of Jehovah - Genesis 16:7-11
h the Angel of the Covenant - Malachi 3:1
h Angel of the Presence - Isaiah 63:7
h the Sent One - Romans 8:3; Galatians 4:4
h Anointed - Psalm 2:2
h Apostle - Hebrews 3:1
h Arm of the Lord - Isaiah 51:9, 53:1
h Author - Hebrews 5:9, 12:2
h Beginning and End - (See under Alpha [Revelation 22:13])
h Beginning of the Creation of God - Revelation 3:14
h Beloved - Matthew 12:18
h Beloved Son - Matthew 3:17; Luke 3:22
h Blessed and Only Potentate - 1 Timothy 6:15
h Branch - Zechariah 6:12
h Branch of Jehovah - Isaiah 4:2
h Branch of David - Isaiah 11:1; Jeremiah 23:5; 33:15
h Jehovah's Servant - Zechariah 3:8,9
h Name of the Man - Zechariah 6:12,13
h Bread - John 6:41
h Bridegroom - Matthew 25:1-10; Mark 2:19, 20; John 3:29
h Bright and Morning Star - Revelation 22:16
h Brightness of the Father's Glory - Hebrews 1:3
h Captain of Our Salvation - Hebrews 2:10
h Carpenter - Matthew 13:55; Mark 6:3
h Chief Cornerstone - 1 Peter 2:6; Isaiah 28:16
h Chiefest Among Ten Thousand - Song of Solomon 5:10
h Child - Isaiah 9:6; Luke 2:27, 43; Acts 4:30
h Christ - John 6:69
h Christ of God - Luke 9:20
h Christ the Chosen of God - Luke 23:35; 1 Peter 2:4,5
h Christ the Son of God - Acts 9:20
h Christ the Son of the Blessed - Mark 14:61
h The Very Christ - Acts 9:22
h Lord Jesus Christ - 2 Timothy 4:22
h Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25
h Ever Strong ConsolationHebrews - 6:18
h Counsellor - Isaiah 9:6
h Covenant - Isaiah 42:6
h David, Perfect King - Jeremiah 30:9; Hosea 3:5
h Dayspring - Luke 1:78
h Deliverer - Romans 11:26
h Desire of All Nations - Haggai 2:7
h Door - John 10:7,9
h Elect - Isaiah 42:1
h Emmanuel - Matthew 1:23
h Ensign - Isaiah 11:10,12
h Everlasting Father - Isaiah 9:6
h Faithful and True - Revelation 19:11
h Faithful Witness - Revelation 1:5; 3:14
h Finisher of Faith - Hebrews 12:2
h First and Last - Revelation 1:11; 22:13
h First Begotten - Hebrews 1:6
h First Begotten of the Dead - Revelation 1:5; Colossians 1:18
h Firstborn among the Brethren - Romans 8:29
h Firstborn of Every Creature - Colossians 1:15
h Forerunner - Hebrews 6:20
h Foundation - 1 Corinthians 3:11
h The Rock - Matthew 7:24
h Fountain - Zechariah 13:1
h Friend - Proverbs 18:24; Matthew 11:19
h Gift of God - John 4:10
h Glory - James 2:1
h Lord of Glory - 1 Corinthians 2:8
h The Father of Glory - Ephesians 1:17
h Glory of Israel - Luke 2:32
h God - Mark 2:7, 10; John 10:28-30
h God our Savior - 1 Timothy 1:1; Titus 2:13; 3:4
h the image of God - Colossians 1:15
h God and Savior - 2 Peter 1:1; 2:20; 3:2, 18
h the True God - 1 John 5:20
h Good Master - Matthew 19:16, 17
h Governor - Matthew 2:6
h Head - Revelation 19:12
h The Head of every man - 1 Corinthians 11:3
h The Head of the Church - Ephesians 1:22, 23; 5:23; Colossians 1:18-20
h The Head of the Corner - Matthew 21:42
h Heir of All Things - Hebrews 1:2; Romans 8:16,17
h High Priest - Hebrews 3:1; 4:14; 7:23, 24
h Propitiation or mercy seat - Romans 3:25
h Holy One - Psalm 16:10; Daniel 9:24
h Hope of Glory - Colossians 1:27
h Horn of Salvation - Luke 1:69
h I Am - John 8:58
h the bread of life - John 6:35
h the light of the world - John 8:12; 9:5
h the door of the sheep - John 10:7
h the good shepherd - John 10:11
h the resurrection & the life - John 11:25
h the way, the truth, the life - John 11:25
h the true vine - John 15:1,5
h Image - Hebrews 1:3
h Jesus - Matthew 1:21
h Jesus of Nazareth - John 18:5.7; 19:19; Mark 1:24
h Jesus the Nazarene - Acts 2:22; 6:14; 26:9
h Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews - John 19:19
h Judge - Acts 10:42; 17:31
h Just One - Acts 7:52
h Righteous OneActs 22:14; 1 John 2:1; 1 Peter 3:18
h King - Luke 19:38
h King of Glory - Psalm 24:7-10
h King of Kings - Revelation 19:16
h King Over All the Earth - Zechariah 14:9
h Lamb - Revelation 5:6
h Lamb of God - John 1:36
h Leader - Isaiah 55:4
h Life - John 14:6
h Light - John 1:7
h Light Everlasting - Isaiah 16:19,20
h Light of the World - John 8:12
h Light of Gentiles - Isaiah 42:6; 49:6; 60:3; Luke 2:32
h Lion - Revelation 5:5
h Living Bread - John 6:41
h Living Stone - 1 Peter 2:6; Isaiah 28:16
h Lord - Matthew 22:43, 44
h Lord's Word -
h the Word of God - Revelation 19:13
h the Word of The Lord1 Thessalonians 4:15
h Lord's Day - Revelation 1:10
h Lord's Supper - 1 Corinthians 11:20
h Lord's Money - Matthew 25:18
h Lord's House - Haggai 1:2; Matthew 21:13
h Lord From Heaven - 1 Corinthians 15:47
h Lord of Glory - 1 Corinthians 2:8; James 2:1
h Lord of Hosts - Isaiah 44:6
h Lord of the Sabbath - Matthew 12:8; Mark 2:28
h Lord of the Dead and Living - Romans 14:9; Revelation 1:5
h Lord and Saviour - Luke 2:11; 2 Peter 1:11; 2:20; 3:18
h Lord our Righteousness - Romans 5:18-21; 1 Corinthians 1:30
h Man - John 19:5; Romans 5:15; 1 Corinthians 15:47
h Master - Matthew 23:8, 10; John 13:13
h Mediator - Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5; Hebrews 12:24
h Messiah - Daniel 9:25, 26; John 1:41; 4:25
h Mighty God - Isaiah 9:6; Titus 2:13
h Morning Star - Revelation 22:16
h Nazarene - Matthew 2:23 (see under Jesus of Nazareth)
h Offspring of David - Revelation 22:16 (see under Seed of David)
h Only Begotten - John 1:14, 18
h Passover - 1 Corinthians 5:7; Exodus 11; 12:15,17,23
h Physician - Luke 4:23; Psalm 32:1
h Plant of Renown - Ezekiel 34:29
h Potentate - 1Timothy 6:15
h Power of God - 1 Corinthians 1:24
h Precious - Isaiah 28:16 (see under title Cornerstone)
h Priest - Hebrews 7:17 (see under title High Priest)
h Prince - Acts 5:31
h Messiah the Prince - Daniel 9:25
h The Prince of Peace - Isaiah 9:6
h Prophet - John 7:40
h Rabbi - John 1:49
h Rabboni - Mark 10:51; John 20:16
h Redeemer - Job 19:25; Isaiah 44:24; Luke 2:38
h Resurrection - John 11:25
h Righteous - 1 John 2:1
h Righteous Branch - Jeremiah 23:5
h Righteous Servant - Isaiah 53:11
h Righteous Judge - 2 Timothy 4:8
h Rock - 1 Corinthians 10:4
h Root - Romans 15:12; Revelation 5:5; 22:16
h A Root of David - Revelation 5:5; 22:16
h Rose - Song of Solomon 2:1
h Preciousness - 1 Peter 2:7
h Ruler - Micah 5:2 (see under title Governor)
h Sanctification - 1 Corinthians 1:30
h Saviour - Luke 2:11; 1 Timothy 2:3; Titus 3:6
h Sceptre - Genesis 49:10; Numbers 24:17
h Second Man - 1 Corinthians 15:47
h Seed - Genesis 3:15; 2 Timothy 2:8
h The Seed of The WomanGenesis - 3:15; Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:25
h The Seed of Abraham - Galatians - 3:16; Hebrews 2:16; Genesis 12:7
h The Seed of David (son of David) - Matthew 1:1
h Servant - Isaiah 52:13-15; Matthew 12:18
h Shepherd and Bishop - 1 Peter 2:25
h Shiloh - Genesis 49:10
h Son - Colossians 1:13; Hebrews 3:6
h His Son, Jesus Christ - 1 John 1:7; 3:23
h Son of the Father - 2 John 3
h Son of the Blessed - Mark 14:61
h Son of the Highest - Luke 1:32
h Son of the Most High GodMark 5:7
h Son, My Beloved - Matthew 3:17; Mark 12:6
h Son, Only Begotten - John 1:14; 18:3:16 (see under title Only Begotten)
h Son of the Living God - Matthew 16:16; Thessalonians 1:9
h Son of God - Matthew 8:29; 14:33; John 10:36
h Son of Man - Matthew 8:20; Mark 2:10; John 1:51; 3:13
h Son of David - Matthew 1:1; 21:9
h Son of Joseph - Luke 3:23
h Son of Mary - Matthew 1:25; Mark 6:3
h Star - Numbers 24:17
h Stone - Matthew 21:42; 1 Peter 2:8
h Sun of Righteousness - Malachi 4:2 (see under Lord our Righteousness)
h Sure Foundation - Isaiah 28:16 (see under Chief Cornerstone and under
h Surety - Hebrews 7:22
h Teacher - John 3:2
h Tried Stone - Isaiah 28:16 (see under title Stone)
h True - Revelation 19:11 (see under title Righteous)
h True God - 1 John 5:20 (see under title God)
h True Vine - John 15:1-17
h The True Light - John 1:9
h The True Bread - John 6:32
h The True Witness - Revelation 3:14
h Truth - John 14:6; 8:32, 36
h Very Christ - Acts 9:22
h Way - John 14:6
h Wisdom - 1 Corinthians 1:30; (see 1:18-31)
h Witness - John 18:37; Revelation 3:14
h Wonderful - Isaiah 9:6
h Word - John 1:1; Revelation 19:13
h The Word of God - Revelation 19:13
h Young Child - Matthew 2:8, 13; Acts 4:27,

Wow, this was truly amazing to read. I had absolutely no idea that Jesus had so many names. Who said that Jesus was just a good teacher of moral?! (or insane?) Thank you very much for the information, 80su2isbest. Where have you got the information from?




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