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Old 08-22-2002, 12:51 PM   #16
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one person might not be able to make a difference ... but a group of people definately can.
A group is worthless without the individuals in it. That's why I believe that one person CAN make a difference.
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Old 08-22-2002, 02:59 PM   #17
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A group is worthless without the individuals in it. That's why I believe that one person CAN make a difference.
Yes, and dont forget Paradigm shifts (and chaos theory).
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Old 08-22-2002, 03:58 PM   #18
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A group is worthless without the individuals in it. That's why I believe that one person CAN make a difference.
well, technically, not really. even Adam had to have Eve with him.
it's good positive thinking though, that leads to change, ultimately.
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Old 08-22-2002, 06:27 PM   #19
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well, technically, not really. even Adam had to have Eve with him.
it's good positive thinking though, that leads to change, ultimately.
But without Eve, there would have been no more people!
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Eve reproduced asexually?
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Eve reproduced asexually?
yep!
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Old 08-22-2002, 10:05 PM   #22
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Asexual reproduction??

How boring!

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Old 08-23-2002, 01:55 AM   #23
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well you know what they say, all human babies start off as female, it takes a slight gene mutation to make them male.
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That explains so much!!

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You know what bugs me about this post?

You complain about all these things ( which you have every right to do!)

but there's one thing that keeps coming back to me...

In America, you have the right to actually say what you just did.


That is more important than all of the above.
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Old 08-23-2002, 02:33 PM   #26
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Let me start this response with something Elvis has posted at the top of this forum:

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If you cant discuss without attacking someone or a group, etc.. you best take it out of FYM... and off Feedback.
Now I would like to at least comment on some of the things you have said:

I have no trust in our Government.

Fine, but you have to live by their laws, or suffer the consequences.

I have no faith in the Constitution.

A manuscript written by men who could not have had any idea what life would be like today.

I have grown to despise the man that I elected President.

Remember - YOU elected him, blame no one but yourself for your hatred.

I have lost my faith in the Goodness of Humanity.

Look harder - there are plenty of good people out there, statements like the ones you made prove your own point.

I have lost my trust in America.

What has it done to you?

I pledge no Allegiance to any Flag.

Then, your complaints are meaningless.

I do not support the Military.

Truly insulting because they support you and put their lives on the line every day so that you can live in a free world (although you seem to take advantage of it and hate it.)

I hate the Blind Followers of our Executive Leader.

Remember - YOU elected him, blame yourself, hate yourself.

I hate the Flag Worshippers.

You hate people who are proud of the symbol of the country which allows them to live the way they want to live, to prosper, and flourish in a world where many cannot.

I hate the Corporations.

Many of these "Corporations" were founded by good men and women who wanted to offer someting to humanity. What have you offered to the world but your hatred???

I hate having Capitalism rammed down my Throat.

Then move to a communist country - see how you like not having choices.

I hate the Illusion of Democracy that everyone clings to.

YOU are able to vote for whomever you want to right, and YOU did, right??? That's Democracy, if you do not like the outcome of your choices, blame yourself.

I don't believe in the Illuminati.

Have more faith in yourself and maybe you too can join them.

I don't believe that the Planet is being run by Lizard People.

Neither do I.

I don't believe the President is a Pawn of the Free Masons.

OK

I don't believe I'm being spied on whenever I watch TV.

You aren't.

I don't believe the Government is tracking my every move.

They aren't - they do not care about you - they have more important things to do.

I do believe that the Government is nothing more that a bunch of Greedy, Squabbling, Infantile, Corrupt White Men.

That is flat out racist (see Elvis' comment above) - there are plenty of minority politicians in the Government.

I believe the Country needs to take care of itself before dealing with Foreign Matters.

We are trying, but if we negelected foriegn affairs, there would be no need fo domestic concerns as we would all be dead.

I believe Israel is in the wrong.

That is your own belief, and you can live with that, I just do not see many Israelis blowing themselves up, killing innocents in the name of God.

I believe no good can possibly come of invading Iraq.

How about removing a cruel dictator who cares about nothing but his own gains, kills his own people, and would destroy his neighbors if he had the means and the chance to do so.

I hate the Government.

Then do not vote, and understand that by hating the Government that serves you, you will do no good for yourself or your fellow countrymen.

I hate most of the Citizens of this Once Great Nation.

Read Elvis' comment again, I take this as a a personal affront and you better watch what the hell you say.

I hate the idea that it is the Duty of the United States to provide Freedom and Democracy to the world, when we have none for ourselves.

You seem to be someone who is able at the minimum to post your opinions on the internet, that is something the majority of the planet is not able to do - think about it, and try your hardest not to be so naive.

I hate the People who cannot see that I have every Right to say all this and still be American.

You definitely have the right to say this and still be American - that is the beauty of our country, but also understand that we as a people have a right to fight your insults, exaggerations, and shallow ignorant thoughts.

There are better, freer countries out there.

I will be the first one to send you an engraved invitation for you to move to one of them.

This is my home. I hate to see it like this.

Then do something positive about it and try to change the things you hate rather that make statements thart begin with "I hate..." instead of "I hate, therefore I am going to..."


Without personally attacking you, I have to say that posts like this truly dismay me. You write this gibberish to get a reply, well here is my reply - stop hating everyone else and look at yourself. How can everyone in the country be bad, how can everyone in the government be against you, how can you have no freedoms when I do, how can you have so many complaints against everyone else without taking some blame yourself. Your post displays the true ignorance that most people in this world hate Americans for. Go tell a starving child in Russia that you hate capitalism, see how they react. Go tell an Israeli child who has witnessed and escaped from suicide bombers that she is in the wrong. Go live in China for a little while and see how many freedoms you have.

The point is this, if you do not like America either do something to change the things you dislike, or in your case - hate, or move away. if you are convinced that there are other places that fulfill your needs, you have every freedom to move to those places, but remember many do not have that freedom.

Before you choose to spew out ignorant posts like this on a website dedicated to a band who fights for other people's rights think about if it is the appropriate place to do so.

To close, if you do not like it here, do not let the emmigration door hit you in the ass on your way out.
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Old 08-23-2002, 03:48 PM   #28
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In America, you have the right to actually say what you just did.

ok i just have to comment on this.
'not just in America'
you do realise that you are free to say anything in most first world countries and also a few third world ones. i lived in the middle east, in the UAE and kuwait and i could walk around shouting profanities about the government and ruling families in public and i wouldn't get harassed by the police. in kuwait, even the newspapers critisized the government on a daily basis.
again, all the freedoms available in America are available in other countries using common sense as opposed to being written in the constitution for stupid people to keep getting reminded by it.
people might be less tolerant of what you say and do in other countries, but then again they don't wear a happy mask either.
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Old 08-23-2002, 08:11 PM   #29
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HATE, HATE, HATE, just a little bit o' HATE!
HATE, HATE, HATE, just a little bit o' HAA-A-ATE!
You don't need a whole lot,
Just share what you've got,
of HATE, HATE, HATE just a little bit o' HATE!
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Old 08-23-2002, 08:14 PM   #30
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i lived in the middle east, in the UAE and kuwait and i could walk around shouting profanities about the government and ruling families in public and i wouldn't get harassed by the police.
I'm not trying to pick your argument apart or anything, I just wanted to point out that I know of a female who was travelling in UAE and was arrested for "cussing" in a bar. Maybe only females are arrested for cussing in bars in UAE, so perhaps it is a "cultural" thing as we are often told...

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