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Old 07-19-2006, 11:55 AM   #16
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This is just a political move to stir the extreme right faction of the party.
I diagree that it is "just a political move". I think he truly believes in what he's doing.
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It seems to me the conservatives (not all) care more about the unborn than those on this earth.


But that just opened a can of worms.
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I diagree that it is "just a political move". I think he truly believes in what he's doing.


actually, i agree. i think Bush's stance on this issue is morally abhorrent, but i think he's sincere.

in his worldview, this:







has the same value as this:



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It seems to me the conservatives (not all) care more about the unborn than those on this earth.


unless it's an unborn gay.
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It seems to me the conservatives (not all) care more about the unborn than those on this earth.


But that just opened a can of worms.
No can of worms opened, because quite frankly, the comment is so inaccurate, it doesn't even bear serious discussion.
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The slippery slope is the government-sponsored growth and harvesting of living tissue.

Once begun, where will it end?

As nbc correctly pointed out, there are any number of privately-funded companies that can and do perform this same type of research.
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As nbc correctly pointed out, there are any number of privately-funded companies that can and do perform this same type of research.


would you leave cancer and AIDS research to privately-funded companies?
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would you leave cancer and AIDS research to privately-funded companies?
Would you trust the government to run it?
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Would you trust the government to run it?


i would trust the government to regulate it and i wouldn't turn away federal funds. i'd embrace them.
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No matter the ethical issues at play? You haven't addressed the primary focus of my comment.
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No matter the ethical issues at play? You haven't addressed the primary focus of my comment.
I am curious as to know what they do with the unborn fetus? Isn't the possibility of curing a disease important? Isn't that an ethical question to answer? It's almost the same as donating your organs....
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No matter the ethical issues at play? You haven't addressed the primary focus of my comment.


i don't think there's an ethical issue here.

cells are not humans.

i care about people.
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^ Let me refresh your memory.

The issue here is the slippery slope of government-sponsored growth and harvesting of living tissue.

Once begun, where will it end?
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^ Let me refresh your memory.

The issue here is the slippery slope of government-sponsored growth and harvesting of living tissue.

Once begun, where will it end?
When they begin cloning people, letting them live till adulthood, and then harvesting their organs, of course.

I wonder if Bush would feel differently if it were one of his family suffering from a debilitating or fatal disease.
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When they begin cloning people, letting them live till adulthood, and then harvesting their organs, of course.
There are a host of other doors these issues open long before then.
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