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Old 06-26-2003, 12:03 AM   #61
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more hospitals, schools, and facilities = better educated, healthier terrorists/murderers.

Jihad for Kids - the TV Show - http://wtvt.com/investreptr/jihad.html

This is originally from the LA Times -
http://www.pmw.org.il/bulletins-250702.html

i suggest reading both articles.

here's a clip from the second article:

Among the examples was the talk show "Letters From Our People," which aired last month on the authority's Palestinian Broadcasting Corp. The show featured Palestinian youths, ranging in age from 11 to 19, who were discussing suicide bombing.

According to a transcript released by the group, 11-year-old Wala is asked by a moderator, "What is better, peace and full rights for the Palestinian people or martyrdom?"

"Martyrdom," the girl replies.

"Of course martyrdom is better," Yussra, 11, adds. "We don't want this world, we want the afterlife.... Every Palestinian child ... says, 'O Lord, I would like to become a shahid.' "
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more hospitals, schools, and facilities = better educated, healthier terrorists/murderers.

Jihad for Kids - the TV Show - http://wtvt.com/investreptr/jihad.html

This is originally from the LA Times -
http://www.pmw.org.il/bulletins-250702.html

i suggest reading both articles.

here's a clip from the second article:

Among the examples was the talk show "Letters From Our People," which aired last month on the authority's Palestinian Broadcasting Corp. The show featured Palestinian youths, ranging in age from 11 to 19, who were discussing suicide bombing.

According to a transcript released by the group, 11-year-old Wala is asked by a moderator, "What is better, peace and full rights for the Palestinian people or martyrdom?"

"Martyrdom," the girl replies.

"Of course martyrdom is better," Yussra, 11, adds. "We don't want this world, we want the afterlife.... Every Palestinian child ... says, 'O Lord, I would like to become a shahid.' "
I knew it was bad but...this is truly disturbing. It's very, very sad.
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more hospitals, schools, and facilities = better educated, healthier terrorists/murderers.
I do not agree with this, but I think the children's comments you posted are truly disturbing and they come from no one else but their elders...
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Not always their elders, but people who promote hamas, etc.

This is all the more reason why their should be schools....
Where not talking about animals here, these are children who are deprived of "real" education..


By the way, Hamas agreed to cease fire, after that , the IDF decided to shed some air bombs on the West Bank.... Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

Isn't this Sad.
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read today's headlines the "agreement" is not done yet...
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Exactly, Sharon has a way of getting around these agreements, doesn't he?
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I'm not sure that is what Ouizy had in mind....
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Acts of God: America's Warning Not to Divide Israel


By Jennifer James
CBN News Producer

June 26, 2003






CBN.com - Since its modern establishment, the state of Israel has been a hotbed of controversy. Jews and Palestinians have long battled over who should rightfully inhabit the land of Israel, a land promised to the Jews 4,000 years ago. In the Bible, the book of Genesis details the covenant God made with the descendants of Abraham.

"On that day, the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, 'to your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the river of Euphrates.'" - Genesis 15:18.

For more than a decade, America has led attempts to settle that dispute, each time encouraging Israel to bring its covenant lands to the bargaining table, this time with the "Road Map" peace plan. Bible scholars say that may be a costly decision for the U.S. as America again stands at odds with God's covenant promise.

U.S. Consul General Jeffrey Feltman said, "What we need to do now is implement and focus on how we get the two sides back to a political process and towards the vision of a two-state solution: Israel and Palestine living side by side."


On April 30, 2003, America was positioned as the catalyst to jump-start the so-called "solution" to the Middle East crisis. As U.S.-backed Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas was sworn in, the "Road Map" peace plan was set in motion.

The very next day began the worst month of tornadoes in American history, more than 500 in a single month. Normally, 1,000 tornadoes hit the United States each year, but this year, in just eight days in May, 375 twisters ripped across the heartland of America.


While in Israel, Assistant Secretary of State William Burns told a group of left-wing activists that "common sense" would override the conservative and Christian viewpoints concerning the road map.


May 9th, 2003, President Bush addressed students at the University of South Carolina. Bush called on the Palestinians to embrace the road to peace, and see the flag of Palestine raised over a free nation.

Hours later, tornadoes returned and Oklahoma City again became the bulls-eye for deadly twisters, reducing what was left of businesses and homes to splinters and bricks. The tornadoes of May devastated the Midwest with the third worst property damage in American history. Since then, the Road Map has endured a rocky road to June, coinciding with what may be America's most rain-drenched spring in history.

On the East Coast there have been less than 10 rainless weekends the entire year. And in the West, certain crop-eating pests are having their best year in six decades amid dry conditions.

In the early stages of the Road Map peace process, weather catastrophe and recent violence in Israel have competed for the headlines. That violence coupled with America's own battles at home are leading some to question the Road Map. Is there a connection between dividing the Holy Land and utter disruption? Some Bible scholars think so.

In the book of Joel, God warns against dividing the land of Israel. Joel 3:1-2 says, "...I will enter into judgment with them there on behalf of my people and my inheritance, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations; and they have divided up my land."

Bill Koenig, author of Israel: The Blessing or the Curse, said, "We know for a fact that God gave this land, through the Abrahamic covenant, He gave the land of Israel to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their descendants, and this land is God's land."


Koenig said the U.S. should not consider such chaos a coincidence. "These are warning signals, these are warning judgements to America that this is My covenant land and it's not to be traded for promises of peace and security. This land is not to be parceled," he said.

In the last 12 years, the U.S. has stepped up its efforts to pressure Israel to give up her covenant lands, several times sharing the spotlight with major storms.

On October 30, 1991, in a meeting scheduled by the first President Bush, Israelis and Palestinians discussed ways to achieve peace in the Middle East. Opening talks focused on trading the lands of Israel for a peace agreement.

That same day, thousands of miles away, a powerful storm was brewing off the coast of Nova Scotia. On October 31st, what would be called "The Perfect Storm" smashed into New England, pummeling the President's Kennebunkport, Maine home with waves 30 feet high. It was a storm so rare that the weather patterns required to create it only happen once every 100 years.

August 23rd, 1992, Middle East peace talks resumed in Washington, D.C. The issue remained surrendering the biblical lands of Judea and Samaria in exchange for peace. Hundreds of miles south, Florida was the target of the worst natural disaster in American history. Hurricane Andrew tore through with an eye more than 30 miles wide and winds up to 178 miles per hour leaving a $32 billion disaster.

Koenig said, "The world leaders have attempted to parcel the covenant land, so as Israel's property and land is at risk, so is the property of the nation that's promoting the peace process. And I might add that the greater the pressure on Israel to give up this property, the greater the repercussions and the greater the following events that take place afterwards."

In the Bible, the prophet Zechariah warned the nations that would come against Jerusalem. "On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves," says Zechariah 12:3.

Koenig said, "We have the nations of the world right now siding with the Arabs and the Muslims that are focused on the covenant land, but we know God is standing with the nation of Israel."

Is America playing a dangerous game? As the Road Map peace process encounters resistance, the Bush administration's determination to see it through has escalated.

Secretary of State Colin Powell said, "We have a plan, we have the commitment of leaders and now we have to execute that plan, keep moving forward and not allow ourselves to be distracted or thrown off point, from the promise that's out there with the Road Map, by this surge of violence. We've got to punch our way through it."

But, up against biblical prophecies, Koenig said America is standing against the very Word of God and should expect major obstacles.

"I believe the Lord will allow these events to happen that disrupt the peace process," he said. "As long as you are going to have a terrorist infrastructure that's allowed to co-exist in the nation Israel, we're going to have a problem."

And with those same terrorist groups opposed to America's brand of peace, the future of the Road Map is dim. Israelis maintain they will be relentless to protect their country while all plans to split up the tiny nation may be curbed.

Koenig said, "God loves the nation of Israel. He still, to this day, loves this nation. He is in hot pursuit of the people of Israel. Through these events, we look at the tragedies and we look at the trials, but God's trying to wake up the world."


The Christian Broadcasting Network, Inc. 2003
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heh

and no, that is not what I had in mind.

I am just waiting patiently for these terrorists to decide how and when they want a cease-fire, you know for all the civilians to be able to have some peace.



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I find it interesting that Hamaas agreed to a 'cease-fire' only after Israel starting targeting their top members. Weren't they saying before Israel started the targeted killing campaign that they will not stop until every Jew is burning in hell or whatever?

Hmmmm...
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Sadly, Israeli target killing involves many innocent lives....??? not just those of fuckers, but many innocent people....

sad

And the article above just shows that Hamas is not the only group wishing worst on Jewish people... But, their are a few Jews, just as thier are Muslims, who are being very selfish..

why are people terrorizing in the name of religion... No wonder God is punishing us so badly.. this is the worst case of blashpemey, wether you be in Hamas or wether you are grouped with Sharon.


hmmmmmmm....
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CBN is almost as disturbing as any "Jihad" group or Hamas, ideologically.

It also shows why America is in no position to stamp out fanaticism.

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No wonder God is punishing us so badly.. this is the worst case of blashpemey, wether you be in Hamas or wether you are grouped with Sharon.
God deserves no credit for what man does to itself.

To comment further on CBN, natural disasters occur everyday, and has occurred since the beginning of time. If it weren't for "natural disasters," the Earth would be as flat and smooth as a pool ball. Leave it, rather, for man to live where it shouldn't and to live in basement-less homes and trailer parks in Tornado Alley. It shouldn't take God to realize that that is deficient in common sense.

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a bit off the subject, but now I am to presume if Israel's "Occupation" no longer existed, Palestinians would not want to live on that land anyway???

I especially like the 17% who are waiting until Israel disappears completely...:


Mob attacks pollsters who found few Palestinians want their old homes in what is now Israel
By Eric Silver in Jerusalem
14 July 2003


A mob of about 100 Palestinian refugees stormed the office of a Ramallah polling organisation yesterday to stop it publishing a survey showing that five times as many refugees would prefer to settle permanently in a Palestinian state than return to their old homes in what is now Israel.

The protesters pelted Khalil Shikaki, the director of the Palestinian Centre for Policy and Survey Research, with eggs, smashed computers and assaulted the nine staff members on duty. A female worker was treated in hospital for her injuries. "This is a message for everyone not to tamper with our rights," one of the rioters said.

Dr Shikaki, a leading West Bank political scientist, was undeterred. He said he was still putting the survey results on the centre's website and seeking the widest possible exposure. "These people," he said, "had no idea what the results were. They were sold disinformation."

The poll, conducted among 4,500 refugees in the West Bank, Gaza Strip, Lebanon and Jordan, was the first to ask where they would want to live if Israel recognised a right of return.

Only 10 per cent of the refugees chose Israel, even if they were allowed to live there with Palestinian citizenship; 54 per cent opted for the Palestinian state; 17 per cent for Jordan or Lebanon, and 2 per cent for other countries. Another 13 per cent rejected all these options, preferring to sit it out and wait for Israel to disappear, while 2 per cent didn't know.

The future of more than three million refugees is critical to any lasting peace. It was one of the unresolved issues that caused the July 2000 Camp David summit to break down.

The Palestinian militant groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad warned yesterday they would end a truce announced last month if the Palestinian Authority continued to try to disarm them.
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