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Old 11-01-2005, 04:07 PM   #1
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Normal I am just tired of them all.

I just cannot take it anymore.

I think our (read: the US) government needs to be fully deloused, emptied, thrown out.

Republicans, Democrats, the whole lot. I think they are doing more harm to our beloved nation than good, and I fear unless these warhorses are removed, this rollercoaster ride of joy will be ended.

So what is going on now, the Democrats have "hijacked" the Senate becasue they want to know why our mothers, daughters, sisters, brothers, fathers, and friends are being killed in a country with no end-game, vision, or wanting of our Western beliefs?

And what the hell have the Democrats really done? Did they not vote for this war?

And the White House and its various evil tentacles all being indicted for revealing the CIA agent (god what a dumb move), and those horrible Supreme Court Justice nominations?

And DeLay's attorneys trying to remove the judge from the case becasue he is a Democrat and has "different political opinions" than the defendant?" I mean - is that really what our judicial system has come to?

I am just seing flaw after flaw after flaw with our government, from almost every side, party, and person involved.

I have pretty much given up hope with those who are ruling this country now, and cannot wait until 2008. I pretty much do not even care who is elected, I am just hoping the majority of the people involved now are gone.

I just do not see any good coming out of those fuckers whom we elected.

I am tired and rambling, and not making much sense. I just simply do not understand all these stories coming out of DC.

ugh.

bye.




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I'm tired of the crap too you cannot believe ANYTHING at all...the news...nothing.
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I agree to an extent, but it about f$****$ time the Democrats hauled out their balls and took a stand. Give em hell Harry.

The war was voted on by both parties, but the con was on the American people (most).

A lovely angle from one of my favorite lefty bloggs:

Reid's assault on Senate GOP
by kos
Tue Nov 01, 2005 at 12:50:37 PM PDT
As the post below notes, Reid asked the Senate to go into special session on intelligence -- that is, a closed session -- to discuss prewar intelligence. This mostion, along with a second (provided by Durbin), requires all Senators to report to the Senate floor. It is a non-debatable motion.

Cue in lots of hystrionics from Frist and company. Republicans whined that this was a violation of Senate tradition. This coming from the gang that wants to eliminate the judicial filibuster. Frist whined that he wasn't consulted. As though Democrats have had a seat at the table in this Congress. They want to play hardball? Fine. Reid sent notice that he can play that game as well.

Frist whined, "Senator Daschle never did anything like this." Damn right. A new sheriff is in town.

Now, this is more than a temporary stunt. The Democratic leadership has promised to call a special session in the Senate every single day until Republicans alllow for a real investigation.

So let's see what we have here --

Democrats showing leadership and fight. Very nice. Democrats creating a media narrative around Republican stonewalling of a real investigation into pre-war intelligence. Also very nice. Republicans getting a taste of things to come if they initiate the nuclear option? Very crafty.

They are currently still in special session.

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Re: I am just tired of them all.

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I just cannot take it anymore.

I think our (read: the US) government needs to be fully deloused, emptied, thrown out.



i hear you and agree with most everything you said

i don't have a side in this shit storm


it is easy for me to see how quickly this admin (with control of both houses) is running this once great country into the ground

that is why I critique them so much
they have their slimy hands on the controls and are greedy, lying scumbags

This experiment called America may well be on the way out

With hatred and greed as the invisible double shot gun being crammed down our willing collective throats
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So do something. If you can't stand it, either leave, or do something, be active. It's why I'm active, because I feel it's the best way to get things done rather than sit on the sidelines and complain.
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I agree U2democrat, I'm glad you're campaigning for your man. At least maybe we can get some decent people elected.
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So do something. If you can't stand it, either leave, or do something, be active. It's why I'm active, because I feel it's the best way to get things done rather than sit on the sidelines and complain.
I wanna do both


its more than that I think...everything is just so outta control.
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So do something. If you can't stand it, either leave, or do something, be active. It's why I'm active, because I feel it's the best way to get things done rather than sit on the sidelines and complain.
I understand where you're coming from, but I think most of our dilemmas are from the fact that we have no party to identify with.

Republicans - evil incarnate
Democrats - evil incarnate-lite
Greens - unrealistic hippies
Libertarians - unrealistic Ayn Rand acolytes

Pretty much, there's no party of common sense.

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If that's your point of view. Certainly I don't think the parties are perfect and are in vast need of improvement but I definitely would not take that extreme of an opinion. To quote John Mellencamp, "Nothing lasts forever thank God for change."
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I understand where you're coming from, but I think most of our dilemmas are from the fact that we have no party to identify with.

Republicans - evil incarnate
Democrats - evil incarnate-lite
Greens - unrealistic hippies
Libertarians - unrealistic Ayn Rand acolytes

Pretty much, there's no party of common sense.

Melon

It's time to form the Melonocrats The party of common sense!
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This is so Australia at the moment. Bush Jr has literally gone fucking mad. Seriously. He needs help. No one seems particularly bothered by his utter derailment, but his ongoing plight in IR and anti terrorism bullshit is going to (has to) come to a head soon enough. The Liberal party's opposition is just as fucked, however. We've got extremely bipolar governments here as all states are Labour but we lucked out with Bush Jr federally. Anyone who voted for him deserves the new IR changes he is trying for. Infact, I wish it upon them.

Fuck it. I dont even know where to start fucking complaining. And if I hear one more word on this goddamned cross city tunnel, I'm going to run a sharp instrument through someone.

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This is so Australia at the moment. Bush Jr has literally gone fucking mad. Seriously. He needs help. No one seems particularly bothered by his utter derailment, but his ongoing plight in IR and anti terrorism bullshit is going to (has to) come to a head soon enough. The Liberal party's opposition is just as fucked, however. We've got extremely bipolar governments here as all states are Labour but we lucked out with Bush Jr federally. Anyone who voted for him deserves the new IR changes he is trying for. Infact, I wish it upon them.

Fuck it. I dont even know where to start fucking complaining. And if I hear one more word on this goddamned cross city tunnel, I'm going to run a sharp instrument through someone.



i feel your pain.

but i still wish i were australian.

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It's time to form the Melonocrats The party of common sense!

I agree
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Re: I am just tired of them all.

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I just cannot take it anymore.

So what is going on now, the Democrats have "hijacked" the Senate becasue they want to know why our mothers, daughters, sisters, brothers, fathers, and friends are being killed in a country with no end-game, vision, or wanting of our Western beliefs?

And what the hell have the Democrats really done? Did they not vote for this war?

And the White House and its various evil tentacles all being indicted for revealing the CIA agent (god what a dumb move), and those horrible Supreme Court Justice nominations?

And DeLay's attorneys trying to remove the judge from the case becasue he is a Democrat and has "different political opinions" than the defendant?" I mean - is that really what our judicial system has come to?
Sorry, but I fail to understand your point. Most of what you have listed are signs of a healthy democracy at work.

Would you prefer a one party state where there was no debate about anything?
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Great point
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