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Old 08-11-2005, 07:22 AM   #1
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how to tell if your child is a homosexual

thankfully, Focus on the Family has given us all guidelines so you can start saving for "Straight Camp" or electroshock therapy when he becomes a teenager.




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Is My Child Becoming Homosexual?
Before puberty, children aren’t normally heterosexual or homosexual. They’re definitely gender conscious. But young children are not sexual beings yet — unless something sexual in nature has interrupted their developmental phases.

Still, it’s not uncommon for children to experience gender confusion during the elementary school years. Dr. Joseph Nicolosi reports, “In one study of 60 effeminate boys ages 4 to 11, 98 percent of them engaged in cross-dressing, and 83 percent said they wished they had been born a girl.”

Evidences of gender confusion or doubt in boys ages 5 to 11 may include:

1. A strong feeling that they are “different” from other boys.

2. A tendency to cry easily, be less athletic, and dislike the roughhousing that other boys enjoy.

3. A persistent preference to play female roles in make-believe play.

4. A strong preference to spend time in the company of girls and participate in their games and other pastimes.

5. A susceptibility to be bullied by other boys, who may tease them unmercifully and call them “queer,” “fag” and “gay.”

6. A tendency to walk, talk, dress and even “think” effeminately.

7. A repeatedly stated desire to be — or insistence that he is — a girl.

If your child is experiencing several signs of gender confusion, professional help is available. It’s best to seek that help before your child reaches puberty.

“By the time the adolescent hormones kick in during early adolescence, a full-blown gender identity crisis threatens to overwhelm the teenager,” warns psychologist Dr. James Dobson. To compound the problem, many of these teens experience “great waves of guilt accompanied by secret fears of divine retribution.”

If your child has already reached puberty, change is difficult, but it’s not too late.

http://www.focusonyourchild.com/deve.../A0000684.html
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What's wrong w/ just encouraging positive traits that will make boys good people regardless of whether those traits are "masculine" or "feminine" , whatever that means

Let's make for damn sure they are not sensitive and loving, because God knows that is a gay, effeminate, girly trait that must be stopped at all costs
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:39 AM   #3
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Nice article irvine. (thumbs up to proving your point)

You know there are so many articles concerning "gayness" in society. And in 99.9% of them it is treated like a disease. I would like to ask people that write these articles what they would rather be....gay or a cancer patient.

I am not a parent but I understand the need to protect your child and want him/her to be perfect. But this "perfect" is societies perfect and is something I damn sure don't want to be.

I was and still am very fortunate to have a family that has always accepted me for what I am. I see now that everyone else is not so lucky.
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This is so sick and wrong.
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What a scary website. It discusses homosexuality and child sexual abuse together implying that somehow it is the same thing.

In one of the sections it says:

4. Don’t leave your children of either sex in the care of teenage boys. Furthermore, don’t allow your teenage boy to baby-sit.

Eh?????
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actually, i think it's all really rather funny.

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How to Prevent Homosexuality
In his outstanding book Preventing Homosexuality: A Parent’s Guide, clinical psychologist Joseph Nicolosi, Ph.D., offers these guidelines:

1. Don’t worry about the occasional cross-gender behavior of your preschool child.

2. Become concerned if you see evidences of gender confusion or doubt in your child from ages 5 to 11. “[T]here is a high correlation between feminine behavior in boyhood and adult homosexuality.”

3. Recognize that most homosexuals “were not explicitly [so] when they were children. More often, they displayed a ‘nonmasculinity’ that set them painfully apart from other boys: unathletic — somewhat passive, unaggressive and uninterested in rough-and-tumble play. A number of them had traits that could be considered gifts: bright, precocious, social and relational, and artistically talented.” Tip: Discern whether your boy struggles with feelings of “not belonging.” If he does, seek help.

4. The father plays an essential role in a boy’s normal development as a man. “The truth is, Dad is more important than Mom. Mothers make boys. Fathers make men.… Girls can continue to grow in their identification with their mothers. On the other hand, a boy has an additional developmental task — to disidentify from his mother and identify with his father.”

This starts about 18 months of age. The father needs to be there physically and emotionally to affirm his son’s maleness for the remainder of the preschool years (and beyond, especially during puberty).

“A boy needs to see his father as confident, self-assured and decisive. He also needs him to be supportive, sensitive and caring. Mother needs to back off a bit. What I mean is, don’t smother him.” Tip: Single mothers may need to recruit a trustworthy male role model.

5. “The late Irving Bieber, a prominent researcher, observed that prehomosexual boys are sometimes the victims of their parents’ unhappy marital relationship. In a scenario where Mom and Dad are battling, one way Dad can ‘get even’ with Mom is by emotionally abandoning their son.” Give your boy what he needs — and get marital help.

6. Psychologist Robert Stoller said, “Masculinity is an achievement.” In other words, “growing up straight isn’t something that happens. It requires good parenting. It requires societal support. And it takes time.”

7. “Once mothers and fathers recognize the problems their children face, agree to work together to help resolve them, and seek the guidance and expertise of a psychologist who believes change is possible, there is great hope.”

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Yea, In the how to prevent homosexuality section it speaks of Mothers make children, Fathers make men. ahhhh HOOEY. Im a mama's boy(and proud of it, lol) and I'm not gay. My father passed away before I went through puberty and My mother did a fantastic job with me(IMO).

What a crazy, fucked up little website.

“There are 800 known former gay and lesbian individuals today who have escaped from the homosexual lifestyle and found wholeness in their newfound heterosexuality.”

Yea, with enough tenacity you can brainwash 800 people into thinking the are chickens. But would we want to.

How about we brainwash terrorists to blow themselves up in open fields in the country instead of our crowded city streets
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Recognize that most homosexuals “were not explicitly [so] when they were children. More often, they displayed a ‘nonmasculinity’ that set them painfully apart from other boys: unathletic — somewhat passive, unaggressive and uninterested in rough-and-tumble play. A number of them had traits that could be considered gifts: bright, precocious, social and relational, and artistically talented.”
could be considered gifts?

sad that things like this, and far far worse im sure, circulate. this is disturbing because it is all under the guise of being reputable with quotes from PhD's and 'prominent researchers'.
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2. A tendency to cry easily, be less athletic, and dislike the roughhousing that other boys enjoy.
My older brother couldn't play sports if his life depended on it and threw temper tantrums all the time. And he's straight.

Both articles talk about how you must prevent your child from growing up to be gay. How about teaching your kid tolerance?
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I don't see why things like that even matter. I mean, of course it's significant to know the sexual orientation of your child, but there's really nothing you can do about it, and why would you treat him/her differently if you DID know? The only reason I can see for wanting to know is if your child is one of the rare ones that have ambiguous gender at birth and you have to just wait to see what gender he or she will assume. And even in these rare cases you'd want much better info, not "if he cries and plays with girl toys". Based on that criteria, my brother was a gay child....except he's not gay.
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I am not a parent but I understand the need to protect your child and want him/her to be perfect.
I'm not a parent, either, but the "perfect" child to me is one that's happy, confident, and LOVED UNCONDITIONALLY - just as he or she is.
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I'm not a parent, either, but the "perfect" child to me is one that's happy, confident, and LOVED UNCONDITIONALLY - just as he or she is.


the only good gay child is an unborn one.

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Irvine, I'm sure you say that with bitter sarcasm, but even so.... It just doesn't reflect the general opinion here & it makes me so sad/angry every time you say it.

I'm not attacking you... I just hate the ignorance behind people who would make that statement with pride.
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Irvine, I'm sure you say that with bitter sarcasm, but even so.... It just doesn't reflect the general opinion here & it makes me so sad/angry every time you say it.

I'm not attacking you... I just hate the ignorance behind people who would make that statement with pride.

NO, NO, Irvine absolutely wishes he wasnt born. No sarcasm, Irvines a very "straight" laced guy.
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