meegannie
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Anyway, I'm somewhere between B and C. I would actually prefer to be a vegetarian, but I was for a couple of years and had a lot of health problems because of it (and I was taking supplements and eating well).
vervex said:Eliv8: Yes I saw a repport about that ! Well two. One about fast foods, McDonald especialy, and another one about the kind of food we found in grocery stores and how chickens were treated. They Supermaket Secrets I think it was called. It was a British show. They showed how the chickens were living in their own pee, sometimes sitting in it because they grew so fast with the food they were fed with that their legs couldn't support their own weight. Some dead chickens were just lying and rotting in the corners while the others were walking (or trying to) ! Same thing with the ducks. Since I saw that, I never eat fast food anymore.
Talking about that :
In a video I've watched, the cow wasn't dead ! It was horrible... they didn't kill it and it was hanging upside down being cut alive ! It was terrible. That beef was one that would be sent to the McDonald company for making burgers, as many others.
For chickens, they are just hanged up and get their head cut by a kind of machine, one after the others, when the time come.
Horrible industry that we have, I agree.
meegannie said:
It's the opposite, really (though "die" and "diet" are unrelated etymologically). "Diet" comes from a Greek word meaning "way of life."
Eliv8 said:
vervex said:
Well no, it was a long repport I think.
I found this that looks a lot like that I saw :
Where Chickens come from :
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=45_days&Player=wm&speed=_med
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I'll try to eat as less as possible from now on... *trauma* lol
Eliv8 said:
Plus I feel so much better for not eating meat & I have lost weight.
VertigoGal said:I am far more concerned with the torture and murder etc that many human beings continue to face in this world. I can understand why people get upset when animals are killed in a particularly cruel fashion, but still get the feeling that the world would be a better place if all those people devoted their time and passion to saving AIDS orphans or something.
Why is it okay to kill cows/chickens/fish/etc and not my dog? Because my dog is cute and I love him very much. Yeah that's pretty much it.
indra said:
I actually do feel it's all connected though. People who have no compassion for animals often also have none for other humans, especially if they can compartmentalise those other humans -- you know, the "well, they aren't like us" bit. That makes it far easier to torture or kill others.
indra said:
I honestly don't think I could stand someone who worked all day slaughtering animals, and I wonder how hard/numb they have to be to do that kind of work.
indra said:
It's not only vegetarians/vegans though. My brother always seems personally offended when someone else doesn't eat meat (or even doesn't eat a certain type of meat), and goes out of his way to try to gross them out. You can see it on his face when someone mentions he/she is a vegetarian or restricts their meat consumption in some way -- it's almost as if he's thinking of ways to force a slab of meat down their throats. It's very disgusting.
Irvine511 said:
this is totally true. i find the lack of respect for vegetarianism much more offensive than the stereotypical militant vegetarian. it can be really rather nasty -- you must understand that the vegetarian is genuinely appalled by the idea of eating dead flesh, and that waving a hamburger in their face or teases them by loudly gorging on a steak might be consdered as offensive as using racials slurs.
anitram said:Breast cancer or mice dying?
AcrobatMan said:A) Twice a day approx
B) Once a day approx
C) 3 times or 4 times a week
D) Once a week
E) Once/Twice a month
F) Once in 3-4 months
G) Once a year
H) Dont eat in recent years but have eaten meat
I) Never eaten meat
For me its F), I consider myself a non-vegetarian
put in closest answer
- AcrobatMan
anitram said:
You don't want to know then how many lab mice have died at my hand doing in vivo experiments for cancer research.
But people fail to understand something - the guidelines for research mean that you MUST have an in vivo system way before they will let you test on humans. So people start with mice. After that they move to dogs or monkeys as the preferable system. IF it works, human tests.
Breast cancer or mice dying?
ImOuttaControl said:How much meat do I eat?
I would have to say I'm an A+++
I loooove eating meat. I could sit down with a 2 pound steak and go to town. mmmm
Anyway, I eat meat at every meal--then I usually have a meat stick as a snack. I hunt/fish so I eat a lot of venison and fish. I make my own venison jerky, meatsticks, sausage...ect.
indra said:Snarfing down a steak because you like the taste is a lot different than getting treatment for breast cancer.
Irvine511 said:this is totally true. i find the lack of respect for vegetarianism much more offensive than the stereotypical militant vegetarian. it can be really rather nasty -- you must understand that the vegetarian is genuinely appalled by the idea of eating dead flesh, and that waving a hamburger in their face or teases them by loudly gorging on a steak might be consdered as offensive as using racials slurs.
indra said:
Most people can function very well on a diet without, or with very little meat.
joyfulgirl said:Everyone's different and do you really think it's cool to be lecturing people ("And why not eat cats & dogs? Why is it OK to put a tortured animal on your plate but not OK to take your dog for a walk and kick him down the street?") about meat when you've only been without it for 4 months?
carrieluvv said:
haha at meat stick as a snack....makes me think of those meat skewer things ya get on the pupu platter at chinese joints
Eliv8 said:
Way of life/Way of death. Dont they pretty much boil down to the same thing?
carrieluvv said:
oh my god ive just watched that meet your meat...and now i dont think that is funny anymore.
im sickened by what i saw .
cruelty , torture- that was just sick
that really bothered me
Eliv8 said:
I am not 'lecturing' - Just contributing to the thread. If I have been vegetarian for 4 months or 4 years it shouldn’t make any difference.
joyfulgirl said:
Ok, sorry. I just found your comment a bit too strong, like someone who has just quit smoking who suddenly has no tolerance for those who still do. Perhaps I am guilty of the same thing at times.