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Old 07-31-2007, 06:24 PM   #31
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But abortion has moved in the opposite direction. It's become legal. The progress got it here. It's not going to be reversed.
But, prohibition is where we have progressed to.

Everyone knows the dangers and destruction of alcohol.


We won't go backwards and repeal prohibition.
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Some members of this forum, perhaps, aren't necessarily fans of democracy.
There's quite a few...
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But, prohibition is where we have progressed to.

Everyone knows the dangers and destruction of alcohol.


We won't go backwards and repeal prohibition.
I classify that as the exception to the rule.
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There's quite a few...
So for the sake of argument, where the legislature of a state have implemented a full or partial ban on abortion within their state, and the legislation implemented is fully consistent with the wishes of a majority based on polls of the electorate, is that wrong?
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I do believe most pro lifers would want a universal ban with severe punishments

especially for providers, they would be considered the al-Quedas in the battle.
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The answer isn't really very complex.
professional misconduct charges, consfication by the State of income derived from performing abortions and possible jail time for repeat offenders for doctors that perform abortions.
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The question is, was it really a majority, or rather a very loud minority?
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So for the sake of argument, where the legislature of a state have implemented a full or partial ban on abortion within their state, and the legislation implemented is fully consistent with the wishes of a majority based on polls of the electorate, is that wrong?
Which states are we talking about? Was this a vote or some magazine poll?
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the legislation implemented is fully consistent with the wishes of a majority based on polls of the electorate
http://forum.interference.com/t178531.html

If it is even the majority anymore (I don't think so), it won't be for long.
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The progress got it here. It's not going to be reversed.
Progress has help us become a much better country

and the last two Supreme Court appointees

made a commitment to respect "stare decisis "

and based on this last court session they are not men of their word.
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[B]Which states are we talking about? Was this a vote or some magazine poll?

I began the example with....

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[B]So for the sake of argument...
...although come to think of it, Ireland is one such state. An actual example, which exists in the real world.
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The question is, was it really a majority, or rather a very loud minority?
I believe the question is do we like democracy only when the results suit us.
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I believe the question is do we like democracy only when the results suit us.
Do we support liberty against majority opinion?
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I believe the question is do we like democracy only when the results suit us.
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Do we support liberty against majority opinion?
Depends on the circumstances. In this case, I don't.
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I believe the question is do we like democracy only when the results suit us.
No, the question is: Is it really a majority wanting to abolish abortion (i.e. more people are for abolishing it than against) ir is it just a minority (i.e. less people are for abolishing it than against) who are just voicing their opinion so loudly that they appear to be the majority.

Or: Do you have any data?

And it's apparently still this black and white debate about abortion, although in most countries the laws on abortion are very strict.
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