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Old 02-25-2005, 07:02 AM   #1
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How do we know which ones are the law abiding citizens?

Courthouse shootout leaves three dead

Friday, February 25, 2005 Posted: 8:05 AM EST (1305 GMT)

TYLER, Texas (AP) -- A man angry about being sued for unpaid child support opened fire with an AK-47 assault rifle outside a courthouse, killing his ex-wife and a man trying to help the couple's adult son.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/25/tx.....ap/index.html


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I often here that "law abiding citizens" should have the right to carry guns. Well I'm sure this man was a "law abiding citizen" at one time.

And why the hell did he own an AK-47?
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Old 02-25-2005, 08:03 AM   #2
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Government imposes reasonable limits on all rights.

Perhaps he obtained his gun illegally.
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I wonder what pushed him over the edge?
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That's so horrible . It's amazing what some people in this world will do to others.

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I'm pretty sure AK-47s aren't legal.
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If they are not fully automatic, then yes they are now legal.
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There was a little thing called the assault weapons ban, but W let it expire

I think what "pushed him over the edge" was his lack of anger management and self control, perhaps.
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AK-47's have never been illegal in the U.S.--only fully automatic weapons.

People really need to stop with this "assault rifle" nonsense. Any gun can be used as an assault weapon in the hands of the wrong person. I guarantee that a skilled hunter or sportshooter could cause a hell of a lot more damage with a plain ol' fashioned bolt action hunting rifle than a lot of these loonies who open fire with an AK-47 or SKS do.
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If they are not fully automatic, then yes they are now legal.
They always were legal. The "assault weapons ban" only banned new weapons from being imported.
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Sorry but you are wrong.

http://www.vpc.org/ak47.htm
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AK-47's have never been illegal in the U.S.--only fully automatic weapons.

People really need to stop with this "assault rifle" nonsense. Any gun can be used as an assault weapon in the hands of the wrong person. I guarantee that a skilled hunter or sportshooter could cause a hell of a lot more damage with a plain ol' fashioned bolt action hunting rifle than a lot of these loonies who open fire with an AK-47 or SKS do.
AK-47s were specifically named by Congress in the "assault rifle" ban.

Please tell me how a bolt action rifle that holds 3 in the chamber and a semi-automatic weapon that holds 30+ in a clip is the same. I'd like to know. Even the most skilled shooter can't get nearly the same amount of shots fired from a bolt action vs an AK-47.
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Originally posted by ImOuttaControl
AK-47's have never been illegal in the U.S.--only fully automatic weapons.

People really need to stop with this "assault rifle" nonsense. Any gun can be used as an assault weapon in the hands of the wrong person. I guarantee that a skilled hunter or sportshooter could cause a hell of a lot more damage with a plain ol' fashioned bolt action hunting rifle than a lot of these loonies who open fire with an AK-47 or SKS do.

and a trained assassin with a knife could kill even more


so make all weapons legal in public

like Texas does
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What is the issue? Has there been a massive increase in murders involving "assault weapons" since the ban expired? Is this case remarkable in any particular way ~ man with grudge opens fire against person he must hate killing them and another. He deserves to be put away for a very long time but how should this one case illustrate anything?
> When did he get the gun?
> Where did he get the gun?

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The AK-47 was one of the assault weapons banned by Congress by name in 1994. However, the AK-47 is still available in both pre- and post-ban configurations. (Slight cosmetic modifications take such post-ban guns out of the federal definition of "assault weapon."
doesn't that make them legal?
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Better not to ban these weapons.


Last thing we need is suicide homicide bombers in Texas.
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Well, weapons are used to *prevent* crimes from happening every now and then.

I remember trying to research this for a paper once, but the estimates I got for number of crimes prevented by the use of firearms were so wildly divergent that it was hard to extract any useful information from them.
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