As Diamond the U2 Patriot (I got it right!) always reminds us, Bono said it best: "It's about transcending boundaries."
Originally posted by Seconds;
I think that most hard line republican concervatives who enjoy U2, like them for different reasons than some Us. I love them because of their stance on human rights and anti war themes. Maybe concervatives just enjoy the the melody in their songs or maybe they only enjoy the spiritual love theme of their songs. But you are right, it does seem a bit paradoxical.
Seconds: I lean conservative and usually vote Republican. I also value human rights and, ideally, I do not LIKE war (although I feel it is necessary at times). I completely understand U2's political stance and I admire them for it, regardless of whether I always agree with them on every issue.
Originally posted by sharky:
Republicans aren't anit-human rights. Republicans aren't anti-Christian. And there are many cases where Republicans in power have done very U2-like things. The whole Drop the Debt campaign comes to mind. And I remember living in Illinois about two years ago when the Republican governor placed a moratorium on the death penalty [very big human rights/Amnesty International issue].
In the end, its all about humanity which transcends political boundaries. And coincidentally, its all about the music which transcends any boundaries you try to confine it to.
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trolling, and a SHARK bites! You've gotta love that!
Originally posted by U2FReAk:
and if I were a conservative, I would find it impossible to listen to just the melody 'cause all the other things are so present. I would go nuts. And about U2 being christians, well, you can say that my dilemma with U2 lies here. I'm not religous. but, I can stand the preeching in, let's say Gloria, 'cause religion has not half the importance of politics to me. This is not to say I don't find religion interesting, 'cause I do, I just don't find preaching and lyrics about how good God is interesting.. but it's something I can overlook.There are other very interesting pieces of writing.
Well, U2FReAk, I understand; but other people prioritize differently; I for one enjoy U2's spirituality and appreciate their political awareness and humanitarian efforts. I strongly disagree with Metallica, spiritually, but I enjoy their music, even some of their political views. If I should "go nuts" due to U2's political statements, does that mean a flaming atheist should storm out of the arena when Bono starts singing the 116th Psalm before "Streets" or the "Allelujahs" at the end of "Walk On"?
Originally posted by arturod:
Just look at some of the New York Post's reviews of the U2 concerts or that article that somone posted the other day entitled "Rock stars should shut up." Is it the music you're into? Or the love songs? The melodies? Maybe you're just not seeing the whole picure of what U2 is really about. It's like Nirvana's song "In bloom":
He's the one who likes all the pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
And I say aahh
I haven't said that we should get our political views from members of the entertainment industry, but that being said, an artist's views (political, social and religious) are reflected in their work. Consequently fans are able to relate to that artist because they have similar beliefs or values and it is those values that should
come across through the music.
Here's another question: Conservatives, what are your 3 favorite U2 albums. Just wondering?
I disagreed with the NY Post review, in fact, I replied to a thread where someone posted it and I stated that Bono's political activism is INDEED very important. NO, I'm not just into the melodies or the love songs. But just as I don't agree with EVERY platform of EVERY candidate I vote for, I do not agree with EVERY political position Bono takes. And Larry's a vegetarian; I'm NOT!
As for the Nirvana excerpt, you can hardly say that we are going out personally shooting guns or partaking in violence because of our political theories.
Yes, Bono's views are reflected in his work, and I do like it when I relate to something in a good song, but how could one be expected to relate 100% to the music they listen to? I don't know about many bands that sing about the life of a 28 year old from Alabama!
3 Favorites? OCTOBER, JOSHUA TREE, ALL THAT YOU CAN'T LEAVE BEHIND
Like someone to blame posted too much for me to copy, so I'll address it without a post:
Like someone to blame: Although I am not usually fond of politicians (regardless of party affiliation), I take issue with your second-guessing of Republicans who support the Drop the Debt campaign. Many of these Senators and Congressmen came forth to support the effort due to their religious convictions and their own human spirit rather than just for votes. Probably a lot of American voters are not even aware of the campaign.
My representative, Spencer bachus (R-Alabama) was one of the FIRST, Republican or Democrat, to support Jubilee 2000, and he did it based on what he and his family and church members had seen in mission work around the world. He is currently going against the grain of Congress AND the Administration in seeking a prohibition from the American stock exchanges of trading by companies that do business in Sudan, where slavery is still legal. Unfortunately, he has not won many friends, Republican or Democrat, on this issue, but he has my support for it.
Another Republican Congressman from Alabama, Bob Riley, will be stepping down after this term to run for Governor. He wants to replace the 100 year old state Constitution, an abysmal document written by bitter post-Reconstruciton bigots, which requires the whole state to take a vote before a rural county can increase fire dues, and still has segregationist laws that violate Federal Civil Rights laws. Also, per this horrible document, a family that makes as little as
$4000 has to pay state income taxes, and this "evil" Republican wants to eliminate that by spreading it to those of us who CAN afford it. Our current Democratic Governor has "suddenly" gotten on the Constitution bandwagon since he lost flat on his face when his "education lottery" referndum went down in a landslide and since our public schools are in proration.
Senator Sessions from Alabama is indeed conservative, but he is proposing expanded FREE healthcare in high-unemployment in West Alabama, AND he is addressing the causes of the region's poverty by bringing a major highway (then comes industry and jobs) through the area from Tennessee's border to the Gulf of Mexico. I feel that some Democrats would merely throw money at the symptoms, but sometimes the roots need to be addressed as well.
Please keep in mind that "consevatives" can also be "compassionate" outside of the realms of government; they can be compassionate of themselves and of their own time; I know I should do more myself, but I know many conservative people who give a LOT of themselves to those in need. Conservatives do not always think that bigger government is the solution, and usually, that is where I line up as a conservative.
Sorry for the long post; I wanted to be all-inclusive. Which reminds me, some of you need to lear to appreciate the diversity of U2's fanbase.
~U2Alabama