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Old 01-09-2007, 11:44 AM   #31
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I honestly don't know. Human sexuality is so complex that there aren't any simple answers to this question, only complex theories. It's grey areas, nothing is black or white.
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As far as cultural/genetics goes, it's hard to choose a side so I'd say both.

What we have now is (in a broad sense) a society where homosexuality is becoming increasingly accepted even by people who are weirded out by it. Homosexuality is right up there with all the other pop culture shit.

I've known people who were repressed homosexuals during their teen years and adopted lisps all of a sudden after coming out in their 20s - so it's a bit of A and B a lot of the time as far as genetics and culture.

Always a mixed bag, always throwing culturally cemented preconceptions about sexuality around - it's a big sexuality mess right now to analyze. We've also got the emergence of the metrosexual term now which has been applied to guys who just know how to take care of themselves - what does that make all other men? Carpenters and woodsmen?
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:45 PM   #33
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:46 PM   #34
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:50 PM   #35
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Hey, whats slobby about broad shouldered guys with chest hair who are man enough to wear leather - no wait
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:51 PM   #36
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genetics and i don't even have to read the other 3 pages to know where this has been and is going.
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Old 01-09-2007, 03:43 PM   #37
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I believe some people are simply born gay and that's that. However I feel there are people who have the genes that could potentinally make them gay but will lay dormont until enviromental factors change that. For example a boy who always has luck with the ladies and is popular with his peers will probably stay straight but a boy with the same genes who feels rejected by other boys his age may start to feel envy for his other more popular peers ard thus sexual attractions may come with this envy. Of course many teens get confused when they start noticing the same sex, not because they are sexually attracted to them but because they are simply attractive people who they are looking at. However sexuality as many have said is a very complicated issue, that a whole book could be written about it and it would still not cover it all.

That said I had one friend who thought he was bi when he was 14 and even kissed other boys, then he had sex with a girl and realised he was straight and he prefered women, whilst i had another friend whos not had much luck with girls and got paranoid and started to question his sexuality for about a good year before coming to the conclusion that he is straight. My point is hormones can play haywire on a persons sexuality espcially during teenage years. Anyway I should probably leave this discussion to more older and wiser forum members
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:13 PM   #38
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Mainstream queer theory seems to avoid the nature of genetics (genetic causality of homosexuality having yet to be proven), and more on the notion of sexuality as a spectrum -- thus there is a spectrum of sexuality that is actually quite slippery and can be influenced due to a variety of factors. This seems to make the most sense to me.
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Old 01-09-2007, 05:17 PM   #39
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Is this a magazine you subscribe to or something? What is "mainstream queer theory"?
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Old 01-09-2007, 06:02 PM   #40
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I think sexuality is extremely complex, and it is hard to say what is the one thing that makes a person gay. I do believe genetics play a big role in it, but then there are some doubts. Such as with identical twins. You don't see both twins being gay; one twin would be gay while the other is straight.

I also think culture and life experiences play a role in the development of sexuality. I think its possible for some people - particularly lesbians - to grow up to be gay after being sexually abused as children. I also think the reason why a lot of women are experimenting with each other, and not as often or openly as men with other men, is because our society allows it. In ancient times, like Greece, it was encouraged for men to be bisexual. Nowadays, most guys wouldn't even dare to kiss another guy. So, I believe there's a lot of factors that lead to sexual development.
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This may be very controversial but I believe "most" Gay men are born Gay and "most" Gay women are truly bi-sexual. The reason I believe this to be true is conversations I've had with many gay women and men. Women by nature are more prone to be bi-sexual whereas men are usually (and I don't mean always but usually) either gay or straight. I have talked to hundreds of "gay" people about this so there is obviously some truth to it.
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You are born with your sexuality..
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"Think sexuality is extremely complex, and it is hard to say what is the one thing that makes a person gay. I do believe genetics play a big role in it, but then there are some doubts. Such as with identical twins. You don't see both twins being gay; one twin would be gay while the other is straight."

This statment could also go for genetics because they would have been raised under the same roof and with the same care.
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This statment could also go for genetics because they would have been raised under the same roof and with the same care.
True, but it were genetic, then both twins would be gay, not one is and one isn't.
I guess in that situation maybe it has to do with being mirrored-imaged: one twin is right-handed, the other left handed, one twin is the 'good' twin, the other 'bad', one twin is gay, the other straight.
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I think its a combination of genetics and choice
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