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Old 06-23-2006, 05:45 PM   #16
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Yes, well, that's why I don't have warm and fuzzy feelings about Islam like most liberals in this world.

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Melon - this reply of yours gives me more hope than you can possibly imagine. Islam is NOT the friend of the liberals in this world. The sooner they realize this, well...just ask a Danish cartoonist.
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Melon - this reply of yours gives me more hope than you can possibly imagine. Islam is NOT the friend of the liberals in this world. The sooner they realize this, well...just ask a Danish cartoonist.


in some ways, this is true.

at least when we talk about Islamism and Islamist terrorism. let's not forget that one of the greatest historical examples of religious tolerance was the Ottoman Empire.
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let's not forget that one of the greatest historical examples of religious tolerance was the Ottoman Empire.
You mean the same empire that wiped out over a million Christians?

"While there is no clear consensus as to how many Armenians lost their lives during what is called the Armenian genocide and what followed, there is general agreement among Western scholars, with the exception of few dissident and Turkish national historians, that over a million Armenians may have perished between 1914 to 1923. The recent tendency seems to be, either presenting 1.2 million as a figure or even 1.5 million, while more moderately, "over a million" is presented, as the Turkish historian Fikret Adanir estimates, but this estimate excludes what followed 1917 - 1918."
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Both Christians and Muslims are guilty of the same crimes against there Brothers and Sisters. Dont make the Christians look like Victims.
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You mean the same empire that wiped out over a million Christians?


go back farther. 15th century.
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in some ways, this is true.

at least when we talk about Islamism and Islamist terrorism. let's not forget that one of the greatest historical examples of religious tolerance was the Ottoman Empire.
The status of Dhimmi is not pluralism at work.
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Oh he's just supporting the sanctity of marriage...
Isn't that the defense Focus on the Family uses?
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Isn't that the defense Focus on the Family uses?
My point exactly.
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Ahhh - I thought you were letting him off the hook
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Ahhh - I thought you were letting him off the hook
No way.
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