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Old 03-03-2008, 08:31 PM   #1
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Homes burned in apparent eco-attack

By ELIZABETH M. GILLESPIE, Associated Press Writer


WOODINVILLE, Wash. - Three seven-figure dream homes went up in flames early Monday in a Seattle suburb, apparently set by eco-terrorists who left a sign mocking the builders' claims that the 4,000-plus-square-foot houses were environmentally friendly.

The sign — a sheet marked with spray paint — bore the initials ELF, for Earth Liberation Front, a loose collection of radical environmentalists that has claimed responsibility for dozens of attacks since the 1990s.

The sheriff's office estimated that Monday's pre-dawn fires did $7 million in damage to the "Street of Dreams," a row of unoccupied, furnished luxury model homes where tens of thousands of visitors last summer eyed the latest in high-end housing, interior design and landscaping. Three homes were destroyed and two suffered smoke damage.

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Fucking quacks...
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these ELF people

and some of the PETA tactics

turn people OFF to their causes

These people deserve to do some serious jail time.
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They should be held criminally responsible. These tactics are completely unacceptable. It's also the reason I dislike PETA and their behaviour.
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I have nothing to contribute other than that I echo BVS, deep, and anitram.
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is someone looking for, say, someone who doesn't like SUVs, doesn't own a car, doesn't use plastic bags at the grocery store, washes his clothes in cold water, and does any number of things to reduce his overall carbon imprint, to somehow approve or excuse or offer understanding for criminal behavior?

that kind of thinking is only for republicans who support torture.
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There have been other arsons at new condos and houses in Seattle in the past few years. Eco-terrorism was suspected, but I don't believe those arsons left a calling card.

Destruction is not the answer. Assholes.
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these ELF people

and some of the PETA tactics

turn people OFF to their causes

These people deserve to do some serious jail time.
Indeed. What makes pursuing ELF especially difficult, though, is that they are wholly decentralized. In fact, most "ELF attacks" are done by ordinary people with no other affiliation with ELF probably; they encourage people to do that who support their cause.

In other words, ELF is not a defined organization like the KKK or Al Qaeda; they are probably the only "postmodern" terrorist organization.
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Indeed. What makes pursuing ELF especially difficult, though, is that they are wholly decentralized. In fact, most "ELF attacks" are done by ordinary people with no other affiliation with ELF probably; they encourage people to do that who support their cause.

In other words, ELF is not a defined organization like the KKK or Al Qaeda; they are probably the only "postmodern" terrorist organization.


I agree Melon,

I tried a Google search on ELF a few minutes ago and did not find an official site.
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I'd say they are not like PETA or Greenpeace

I think Al Qaeda is becoming decentralized these days

There is not necessarily a chain of command or even any affiliations with some groups
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I should point out now that there are some theories that "ELF" is just a scapegoat, and, perhaps, these homes were burned by the developers, who were unable to sell high-priced homes in this plummeting housing market. One of the reasons offered is that there hasn't been an ELF-credited attack in nearly 10 years here, and the fact that homes like these were usually burned far earlier in the construction phase.

If it's true, I'm sure our arson investigators will figure it out. This wouldn't be the first time that someone tried to cover up their crime with an easy, stereotypical scapegoat only to be found out later. Susan Smith, anyone?
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The Klan as I understand it is pretty decentralized these days. Will be interesting to see how this plays out, I could see how ELF could be a scapegoat here, they could make a real boogeyman out of them. Kind of like in Animal Farm, whenever something bad happened it was always "Snowball" who did supposedly did it(wasn't that the Trotsky pig? I always liked him).
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Whats really funny is that the New York Times referred to ELF as, get this....ANTI-SPRAWLING ACTIVISTS
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Whats really funny is that the New York Times referred to ELF as, get this....ANTI-SPRAWLING ACTIVISTS


?

is this something to get outraged about? or are you just continually scouring the Times in order to find some whiff of this "bias" that everyone on the right keeps saying exists?
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